virus: Reading the list

Date sent:    Sat, 5 Jun 2004 16:37:16 -0600
To:    virus@lucifer.com
Subject:    Re:virus: Reading the list
From:    "Hermitess" <hidden@lucifer.com>
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>
> [quote from: ElvenSage on 2004-06-05 at 14:14:01]
> Moving the political discussion off the BBS is a good idea I think.
> Now how about we put up a regulation where Joe and Hermit are not
> allowed to reply or respond to each other. They obviously can't see
> that their long-going argument is silly. So let's just do that. I'm
> not down with kicking anyone, or silencing what they have to say.
> Some moderation would help tough.
>
> Dear Elvensage,
>
> Is it silly to object to having Joe Dees continuously casting
> aspersions, making controversial assertions and employing innuendo on
> a continuous basis against the Hermit and anyone else who dares to
> disagree with him?
>
A shining, sterling exemplar of psychological persuasion, since anyone
who has eyes to see knows all too well that this is precisely Hermit's
modus. Truly you must be blinded by love.
>
> Is it silly to object to seeing the list being
> flooded with infantile and badly written articles about how the US
> should destroy the planet?
>
Bullus shittus. A lying red herring of a straw man.
>
> Is it silly to say that Joe Dees hasnt been
> able to try to justify himself with "but I'm just responding to what
> Hermit said..." for nine months - because Hermit hasn't been here.
>
I have not been responding to Hermit while he was gone; only since he
has returned, with, apparently, one sole purpose - to attack me. I see
that you're a compliant helpmate in that regard.
>
> If these are not silly, then why is Hermit silly for saying them?
>
But they ARE....
>
> Please ask yourself if the CoV is richer or poorer when people like
> Hermit can't bear to be involved in it?
>
>Considering his recent acidly caustic and monomaniacally focused
assaults, richer by far.
>
> I think that the CoV looks like
> a genetically engineered hybrid between a Republican convention, a
> gang war, a psychiatric ward and a no rules grudge match.
>
You're thinking so does not make it so; you are obviously biased.
>
> How many
> people other than angry mentally unstable children do you think find
> this attractive?
>
Apparently you too do, and heavily contribute to such an environment,
so what does that make you?
>
> Who does? Maybe Joe Dees. Who else? Ask Joe Dees what
> he feels about the CoV? Do you think he is doing what he does here to
> make the CoV grow? To make it more attractive to others? To make it a
> friendly environment for the other Virians? If that is not what he is
> writing for, then why is he here? Why do you let him keep doing what
> he does?
>
I am here to critique(and add) memes, and to ensure that this list
remains a balanced one that critiques memes from all perspectives,
rather than just degrade into just another anti-war, anti-bush and anti-
american meme-infested hate site. That goal does seem to be
exceedingly troubling to certain zombically enthralled-by-hatred
members of the list.
>
> I know that I dont like it. I know that Hermit doesnt like it. I know
> that other Virians dont like it - because we talk and because some of
> them have written here. I know that we stayed away after Mermaid
> attacked Hermit and David thought Hermit overreacted, because Hermit
> thought that he was too involved that the CoV had cost him enough
> friends and perhaps Mermaid, Metahuman, you and the others blaming him
> were right. If he left it might improve. But it hasnt, has it?
>
If all those people, and Bill Roh and Jonathan Davis and I as well,
have problems with Hermit, maybe - just maybe - it's Hermit's fault,
instead of the fault of all the others. Or is that thought inconceivable for
you to entertain?
It was better while he was gone, and has worsened since he returned.
The only major flap was when Irvken decided to play the part of Hermit
Mini-Me.
>
> So what
> will make things improve? If David and the rest of you keep ignoring
> the problems, do you think they will go away? If David thinks that
> attacks are not worth doing anything about unless they are obvious to
> strangers then they will go on.
>
Which is why the attacks against me should cease. I'm not the one
doing the attacking here; the attackers seem hell-bent upon
characterizing any defence or protestation against their depredations as
attacks against them. Well, Alice, we're not on that side of the mirror.
>
> I think the trouble is that the Virians are not strangers. A lot of
> them know each other well enough to be very hurtful to each other when
> they are angry or upset. When that happens, somebody has to stop it
> quickly before it gets worse. And if it keeps happening, I think that
> you should simply tell people who cant behave nicely that they need to
> go somewhere else - just the same way as you would if this were a
> school. You keep having the same problem, a person who isn't here to
> make the CoV a better place. You need to find a way to say goodbye to
> them rather than having to destroy the CoV itself in the hope they
> will go away.
>
So say Good-bye to Hermit; he seems constitutionally unable to NOT
attack me; this failure of self-discipline and will is not MY problem, but
HIS - and he is quickly proving it to be an incurable mental malady on
his part.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Hermitess
>
Also Most Sincerely,
Joe Dees
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