RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete.
« Reply #15 on: 2004-03-29 01:15:23 »
[David] If this is the kind of discussion we can expect now that Joe is back, I am out of here.
David
[Kalkor] We shall see... we shall see... I especially like the part where "That long absence is the only reason I agreed to forgive the unjust and unfair railroading I experienced here and return at all" follows from Blunderov's "it seems to me that it would be appropriate to formally invite Joe to resume his full relationship with Virus and I do so propose."
Full relationship, we should have seen it coming ;-}
Although it's the first name-calling I've seen in a while, and I kind of miss it.
Nah. Not really.
[Joe] > > I sincerely hope that the Pied Piper guru of other-than-worshipful-clone totalitarian intolerance, logorrheal browbeating, Stalinist silencing, vicious, vituperative ad hominem, off-list conspiratorial plotting, and cornucopially vomitous and vile mother-slander is not being invited back from his most blessedly long absence to infect and inflict his megalomaniacal self upon this beleaguered site yet again. That long absence is the only reason I agreed to forgive the unjust and unfair railroading I experienced here and return at all, hoping that time had clarified and cleansed the poisoned well which, with his twisted help, this forum had become. I had actually despaired of its ever recovering from such extremist fanatically fervent zealotry as he had nurtured and, by example, inspired in some emotionally-blinded-to-logic-and-evidence dittohead minion sheeple here, and had actually, and sadly, expected him to succeed in his stated ambition of ramrodding this site into completely abandoning any pretense to balance and objectivity and becoming just another nauseous Said-Rall-Fisk-Pilger+Chomsky-genuflecting clone of such paragon-of-fringe-mentality sites as the Democratic Underground, Indymedia, Zmag and the Yellow News. I quite simply will not cohabit this site with such sick, demented and disgusting detritus. > > And thank you most muchly, Jonathan, for taking up the baton that was ripped from my unwilling hand and running with it so well. Your blackness made you ideal for that purpose; it would've been ludicrous beyond measure for the former South African white boy (apologies to the much more rational and reasonable Blunderov) to have attempted to plaster YOU with the racist label he so mightily , pitifully and pathetically strove to staple to me with a superglue gun. > > ---- > This message was posted by Joe Dees to the Virus 2004 board on Church of Virus BBS. > <http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=61;action=display;threadid=300 91> > --- > To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l> >
"We think in generalities, we live in details"
RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete.
« Reply #16 on: 2004-03-29 02:03:22 »
Kalkor Sent: 29 March 2004 08:15 AM
Although it's the first name-calling I've seen in a while, and I kind of miss it.
Nah. Not really.
[Blunderov] Lovely to hear from you again Kalkor.
I think we may take it that Joe finds himself in the grip of powerful emotions when his thoughts turn to the Hermit.
I am hoping that in such an intelligentsia it should be reasonably possible to agree to disagree where necessary.
If it is not possible, here at Virus, to refrain (on rational grounds) from squabbling like men over dice in an alley, then where can it be possible at all? And how can we presume to criticize the high and the mighty for doing the same?
As everyone who has been here for some time all too well knows, I have ample, abundant and eminently good reasons for intensely detesting that individual. As do others.
RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete.
« Reply #18 on: 2004-03-29 03:40:55 »
Quote:
"If this is the kind of discussion we can expect now that Joe is back, I am out of here."
Quite. I've unsubscribed from the mailing list so I don't have to read any more of either those ravings or assorted pieces of demagoguery from the pages of the tabloid press...
RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete.
« Reply #20 on: 2004-03-29 04:48:43 »
....i for one joe, was never a part of or aware of any focused off-list effort against you. i merely became immensely tired, worn down, bored, frustrated, and apathetic due to conversations just like this. i see that one of the first things youve done, is bring it all up again. i dont know what to say...i really dont...i'm sure it's all been said many many many times. i dont care about your mother, your hurt feelers, your hatred for hermit, your teary-eyed return or your incredibly thin-skin. i guess i will have to continue to be bored to death by all this crap for some time to come once again. when the 500th post pops up regarding Your feelings, Injustice towards you, Evil hermit, Your poor mom, or other inflexible positions, i will once again long for the days without 50 joedees posts (48 of which will be about YOU).
...cant you at least pretend to drop all that crap WITHOUT a "yeah, but...." as your lead-in for just a few days at least? sheesh.
DrSebby. "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows---- From: "Joe Dees" <hidden@lucifer.com> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com To: virus@lucifer.com Subject: RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete. Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:12:53 -0700
Fair enough. I will accept your word on this. But I do have a question for the list members: Elven stated to me that the individual in question conspired with him offlist to co-ordinate attacks upon me. He also stated that he was far from the only one so co-ordinated. In fact, he told me that this action was one of the things that soured him on this nefarious individual and persuaded him to speak up/out concerning him, after which it seems that, due to fear of opposing him publicly, Elven's privately communicated off-list support failed to publicly materialize, leaving him feeling abandoned and betrayed. Would the rest of the members involved in that rancid scheme do me the favor of fessing up? I am quite willing to let bygones be bygones as far as those who were persuaded to aid and abet his anti-me putsch-plot-pogram-persecution are concerned; I'm just curious as to how broad and deep it went, and think that it is only fair that I be so enlightened. It is quite alri! ght with me if the individuals involved, due to understandable shame at their involvement in such vile machinations, prefer to enlighten me privatly rather than publicly. I promise not to betray their confidence.
RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete.
« Reply #21 on: 2004-03-29 04:55:43 »
...sticks and stones may break my bones, but dees' words continue to bore me.
GET SOME THICKER SKIN AND GET A NEW PURPOSE FOR POSTING HERE!!!
i'm starting to wonder if you dont save all of hermits posts and read over them each day to refuel your ridiculously pointless passion. keep it to yourself please!!!
DrSebby. "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows---- From: "Joe Dees" <hidden@lucifer.com> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com To: virus@lucifer.com Subject: RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete. Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:35:11 -0700
As everyone who has been here for some time all too well knows, I have ample, abundant and good reasons for intensely detesting that individual. As do others.
RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete.
« Reply #22 on: 2004-03-29 04:59:33 »
...i dont fucking believe this is happening again.
at this point i already hate your mother myself and i dont even know her!?? SHUTUP about this crap.
DONT YOU EVER GET AN F-ing CLUE??
DrSebby. "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows---- From: "Joe Dees" <hidden@lucifer.com> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com To: virus@lucifer.com Subject: RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete. Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:51:00 -0700
That's strange. I didn't notice you unsubscribing when that execrable individual was trashing my mother and railroading me. Others did, though.
It all began when it seemed like that rancid pile of putrid pond scum was being invited back here, immediately after I agreed to return. I wanted to impress upon the people here with crystalline clarity that I refuse to sully myself with a list association with someone who would have to rise quantums in my estimation to deserve my contempt, and who, by his own words and actions, fully earned that opinion. I will not bring him up again if no one else does; the last thing I want to do is even soil my brain with thoughts of him. Remember, too, that I stated that if he would simply apologize for his unacceptable slander, that I would let bygones be bygones, but, even after other members agreed that such a course was highly appropriate, this the prideful megalomaniac was not man enough to do.
PS: I will hate your mother too, if it makes you happy (just joking); what I will never do is what that disgusting chunk of eel offal did: describe a woman he'd never met as a drooling nutcase who slavers spittle on a screen and has sex with her son. That sort of vile and libelous behavior is beneath me, and, I trust, beneath you, too.
Just when I thought I was out-they pull me back in
Re: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete.
« Reply #25 on: 2004-03-29 13:16:34 »
A-FUCKING-MEN, DrSebby!
Walter <that's the extent of my right-brained response, Joe, but return to your old ways and I can move it to the left brain and pump it up if you like> <<just get the FUCK over it---MY mother REALLY was a psychopathic bitch, but I forgave her and got over it!!--and that's MY MOTHER(rest in peace)>> <<<and remember, arguing online is like the special olympics: it doesn't matter if you win or lose, you're still a fuckin retard.>>>
Dr Sebby wrote:
> ....i for one joe, was never a part of or aware of any focused off-list > effort against you. i merely became immensely tired, worn down, bored, > frustrated, and apathetic due to conversations just like this. i see that > one of the first things youve done, is bring it all up again. i dont know > what to say...i really dont...i'm sure it's all been said many many many > times. i dont care about your mother, your hurt feelers, your hatred for > hermit, your teary-eyed return or your incredibly thin-skin. i guess i will > have to continue to be bored to death by all this crap for some time to come > once again. when the 500th post pops up regarding Your feelings, Injustice > towards you, Evil hermit, Your poor mom, or other inflexible positions, i > will once again long for the days without 50 joedees posts (48 of which will > be about YOU). > > ...cant you at least pretend to drop all that crap WITHOUT a "yeah, but...." > as your lead-in for just a few days at least? sheesh. > > DrSebby. > "Courage...and shuffle the cards". > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Joe Dees" <hidden@lucifer.com> > Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com > To: virus@lucifer.com > Subject: RE: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete. > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:12:53 -0700 > > Fair enough. I will accept your word on this. But I do have a question for > the list members: Elven stated to me that the individual in question > conspired with him offlist to co-ordinate attacks upon me. He also stated > that he was far from the only one so co-ordinated. In fact, he told me that > this action was one of the things that soured him on this nefarious > individual and persuaded him to speak up/out concerning him, after which it > seems that, due to fear of opposing him publicly, Elven's privately > communicated off-list support failed to publicly materialize, leaving him > feeling abandoned and betrayed. Would the rest of the members involved in > that rancid scheme do me the favor of fessing up? I am quite willing to let > bygones be bygones as far as those who were persuaded to aid and abet his > anti-me putsch-plot-pogram-persecution are concerned; I'm just curious as to > how broad and deep it went, and think that it is only fair that I be so > enlightened. It is quite alri! > ght with me if the individuals involved, due to understandable shame at > their involvement in such vile machinations, prefer to enlighten me privatly > rather than publicly. I promise not to betray their confidence. > > ---- > This message was posted by Joe Dees to the Virus 2004 board on Church of > Virus BBS. > <http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=61;action=display;threadid=30091> > --- > To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to > <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l> > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > --- > To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l>
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Re: virus: Parmenides and the problem of abstract and concrete.
« Reply #27 on: 2004-03-30 18:23:34 »
Both of you:
Bait this. ---
Walter
Erik Aronesty wrote:
> Walter, I saw the first post where you baited Joe. > > Joe, you're letting yourself be baited by Walter. > > --- > To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l>
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