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virus: RE: Unilateralism
« on: 2003-09-26 16:04:42 »
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Uh huh.  I see.  You live in that "rational world" in which GWB is a
successful diplomatic negotiator who never suggested that the US/UK would
"go it alone" before such an issue was necessary, who established a broad
coalition of strong international military powers to invade Iraq, and who
managed to get the Turks to see things our way letting US/UK establish a
northern ground front in Iraq.  Whether your universe is a rational one or
not, I will definitely agree that it is a different universe than the one I
and many other people live in.  While I would probably prefer living in
your version of reality, unfortunately I seem to be stuck a less Pollyanna
rational version where GWB is an ideologically obsessed, reality impaired,
diplomatically incompetent, and fiscally irresponsible US head-of-state
(embarrassingly enough).  Perhaps when he loses the election next year we
will move closer to your version of reality.  If not, or at least until
then, unilateralism seems the rule, much to the detriment of long term US
power.  The New American Century simply won't happen like this.

-Jake


> [Original Message]
> From: Jonathan Davis <jonathan.davis@lineone.net>
> To: <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: 09/26/2003 3:24:00 AM
> Subject: RE: Unilateralism (was: RE: virus: The Ideohazard 1.1)
>

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf
Of
> Jake Sapiens
> Sent: 25 September 2003 22:00
> To: virus
> Subject: RE: Unilateralism (was: RE: virus: The Ideohazard 1.1)
>
> [Jake]  You and I must be living in different universes.  I think that
about
> sums it up.
>
> [Jonathan] Greetings from the rational universe :-)
>
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Re:virus: RE: Unilateralism
« Reply #1 on: 2003-09-26 14:44:18 »
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Just two small observations Jake. Otherwise it is perfect.

...fiscally irresponsible appointed rather than elected US head-of-state.., and;
Perhaps when he loses the election again next year...

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RE: virus: RE: Unilateralism
« Reply #2 on: 2003-09-27 08:08:27 »
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Nah, you said we lived in separate universes, so I joked about my being in
the "rational" one.

As for reality and realism, I definitely have an advantage. Everything I
support or predict comes seems to come to pass. Saddam is gone. Iraq is
being transformed. The US and UN are an item once again. Everything is
working out beautifully.

Regards

Jonathan 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
Jake Sapiens
Sent: 26 September 2003 21:01
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: virus: RE: Unilateralism

Uh huh.  I see.  You live in that "rational world" in which GWB is a
successful diplomatic negotiator who never suggested that the US/UK would
"go it alone" before such an issue was necessary, who established a broad
coalition of strong international military powers to invade Iraq, and who
managed to get the Turks to see things our way letting US/UK establish a
northern ground front in Iraq.  Whether your universe is a rational one or
not, I will definitely agree that it is a different universe than the one I
and many other people live in.  While I would probably prefer living in your
version of reality, unfortunately I seem to be stuck a less Pollyanna
rational version where GWB is an ideologically obsessed, reality impaired,
diplomatically incompetent, and fiscally irresponsible US head-of-state
(embarrassingly enough).  Perhaps when he loses the election next year we
will move closer to your version of reality.  If not, or at least until
then, unilateralism seems the rule, much to the detriment of long term US
power.  The New American Century simply won't happen like this.

-Jake


> [Original Message]
> From: Jonathan Davis <jonathan.davis@lineone.net>
> To: <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: 09/26/2003 3:24:00 AM
> Subject: RE: Unilateralism (was: RE: virus: The Ideohazard 1.1)
>

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On
> Behalf
Of
> Jake Sapiens
> Sent: 25 September 2003 22:00
> To: virus
> Subject: RE: Unilateralism (was: RE: virus: The Ideohazard 1.1)
>
> [Jake]  You and I must be living in different universes.  I think that
about
> sums it up.
>
> [Jonathan] Greetings from the rational universe :-)
>
>
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