> [athenonrex]
> okay firstly...joe, hermit...knock it off...you are BOTH guilty of ad
> hominem now, and neither of you have any right at this point to note
> that the other is guilty of ad hominem as an attempt to discredit a
> logical (or at times, rather illigoical) arguement.
>
> [athenonrex]
> secondly, hermit...please...that's my word.
>
> <snip>
> "... and ignored by those who, like me, think you are a fuckwit..."
> (hermit) <snip>
>
> (okay, perhaps the credit for that word is due to the movie "Igby Goes
> Down," but it's still my word.)
>
> joe...i did read the article. you just be rather presumptuous to
> assume that i would have read hermit's initial response before having
> read the article. i mean, what would freud say? i'm sure that, and no
> personal insults are intended here, there is some part of you that you
> would rather not acknowledge, but is still there, that believes that
> the majority of people in CoV flock behind hermit. i notice that you
> have a problem with anger as well, perhaps. you seem to get frustrated
> and strike out at what you preceive as opposition.
>
Mother-slandering is not opposition?  Interminable 'fuckwit's are not
opposition?
>
> now, though hermit is more than guilty of his share of ad hominem, he
> never once did it (that i can recall) in a manner that was frustrated
> and infuriated. might i suggest yoga or tai chi chuan to help you gain
> some sense of inner peace and personal control.
>
No, he seemed to take amused delight and enjoyment in slandering my
mother - which clearly reveals the kind of person he is.
>
> hermit...you are a very intelligent person. i have come to respect
> you, though less in recent times i must admit. knowing that you are
> such an intelligent person though, i have to wonder why you feel the
> need to fuel and fan the fire? you respond to joe, knowing that it's
> only going to feed him. you did announce that you were from here on
> out going to ignore him, but how long will that last? and why did it
> take you all the way til now to come to the realization that the only
> way to make joe shut up is to ignore him?
>
Getting Hermit to shut the fuck up is the major problem...
>
> though i made a point to adress both guilty parties here, i do still
> somewhat favour the latter party, as though he is just as guilty of ad
> hominem, he is not guilty of so many other irrationalities that the
> former is guilty of...
>
> my end point: joe, stop assuming, calm down, breath a bit....hermit,
> realize your faults as well, and don't lower yourself...
>
He already lowered himself to mother-slander and denying his own
words;  How much lower can he go, and how can you possibly favor the
author of such behavior?
>
> oh, and recognize the patterns, it's all about patterns.
>
And what did you think of the article, and why?
>
> regards,
> athenonrex
>
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