| 2006-09-24 11:01:09
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| 11:01:09 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Where is teh Sat? |
| 11:01:23 | Sat | I'm right here |
| 11:01:37 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: super |
| 11:01:53 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Today's chat is on "self-ownership and body rights" |
| 11:02:31 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Who owns your body? and Who should own it? |
| 11:02:50 | Sat | * Sat pushes a needle through is nipple |
| 11:03:01 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: What kind of questions did you have in mind when you suggested the topic, Sat? |
| 11:04:15 | Sat | Well ownership of the body, or the ability to change it as one pleases and determine what is in it, seems neccessary to transhumanist upgrades. |
| 11:04:32 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow nods |
| 11:04:39 | Sat | If we are to alter ourselves we must have the license to do so |
| 11:05:13 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Who owns your body today? |
| 11:05:19 | Sat | Of course, if one does not worry to much about legality, one can do whatever he wishes to his body... |
| 11:05:39 | Sat | Well that is mixed. I have a license to do a lot with my body... |
| 11:05:40 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Can you sell a kidney if you want? |
| 11:05:44 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Not that you would |
| 11:05:54 | Sat | but my government also claims to hold rights to some thins I can do with it |
| 11:06:26 | Sat | For example: I am supposedly not allowed to alter my brains chemistry with vertain chemicals. |
| 11:06:27 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Do you separate rights and ownership? |
| 11:06:52 | Sat | hmmm |
| 11:07:14 | Sat | I'd say that our governments own our bodies... |
| 11:07:33 | Sat | and extend us licenses to certain uses. |
| 11:07:42 | Sat | (If we play by thier rules) |
| 11:07:46 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: It seems that way |
| 11:08:04 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: If they are the party granting rights over our bodies, they must own the bodies |
| 11:08:15 | Sat | * Sat nods |
| 11:08:33 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: So we are left with a couple choices |
| 11:08:40 | Sat | I wonder how this would work if we got ourselves new bodies. |
| 11:08:47 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: assuming we don't agree that is how it should be |
| 11:09:03 | Sat | I don't agree with it. |
| 11:09:15 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Interesting question, what if we uploaded into a robot body |
