2004-07-06 18:00:14
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18:00:14 | rhino | but then you can change it again |
18:00:22 | WW | isn't that the "Forgot Password" routine? |
18:00:32 | rhino | yes |
18:01:17 | WW | I don't want to change it cuz I'd have to change it on all existing pc's--I just want to "know" it ;) |
18:01:30 | rhino | rhino has changed the topic on #virus to "Free speech: should some groups be censored?" |
18:02:01 | rhino | How do we handle this? |
18:02:15 | WW | beetlelucifer, beetlelucifer, beetlelucifer |
18:02:20 | WW | handle what, the topic |
18:02:24 | rhino | yes |
18:02:32 | WW | jump in, I guess |
18:02:37 | prometheus | Perhaps you could provide an opening statement and then we can let fly. |
18:03:15 | rhino | we hear that here has been a mopve tro kick some hate groups out of the net recently in europe |
18:03:49 | rhino | is that flat right, flat wrong, or are there limits |
18:04:23 | WW | If they violate an existing law, then yes, fuck 'em |
18:04:31 | rhino | racist groups, nazi groups... |
18:05:20 | WW | oh, they've had their little communication channels forever. We don't ban those. (newsletters, etc.) |
18:05:50 | rhino | so, should a racist group be denied access to the net only if it incites specific unlawful activities |
18:06:06 | prometheus | Do these efforts to ban the speech of hate groups actually strengthen their resolve? |
18:06:47 | rhino | who can say. they deny them some means though |
18:08:09 | rhino | what about a site with material on homemade bomb manufacturing? |
18:08:51 | prometheus | The Anarchist's Cookbook. |
18:09:12 | rhino | yes, is it a problem to be online? |
18:10:05 | rhino | ww, feel free to interject creative literature |
18:10:16 | rhino | just to keep up the pace |
18:11:05 | prometheus | Who is watching the censors? Are their checks and balances? |
18:11:54 | rhino | lets say that in principle all free speech should be allowed then |
18:12:20 | rhino | should there be an exception when the law can press a specific charge? |
18:13:10 | WW | I'm not much on censorship. Or victimless crime statutes. They're both predicate on making statistically based legal interventions. Bad idea. |
18:13:45 | prometheus | What type of charge, rhino? |
18:14:03 | prometheus | Like yelling "Fire" in a crowded theatre. |