2004-02-17 20:00:01
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20:00:01 | Sat | I care little for much beyond meeting my living expenses |
20:00:07 | Lucifer | Official chat starts now |
20:00:11 | Lucifer | Welcome all |
20:00:24 | Lucifer | Our topic this eve is "The Future of Leisure" |
20:00:28 | Lucifer | thx to rhino |
20:00:34 | rhino | human relations is something i have been trying to exorcise |
20:00:34 | rhino | it always comes back and bites me |
20:00:50 | rhino | oh, leisurology time |
20:01:17 | Lucifer | What ever happened to the 30 hour work week we were supposed to be enjoying by now? |
20:01:40 | Sat | * Sat does about 15 hours a week |
20:01:43 | Lucifer | Is it really a goal? Do we choose to work more than we have to? |
20:01:50 | localroger | * localroger hears GF say "AND MY JET-PACK!" |
20:02:03 | Lucifer | yeah, and flying car ;-) |
20:02:30 | Lucifer | Well, here an interesting stat from the book Flow, most people do work 30 hours a week, and spend another 10 hours at work goofing off |
20:02:40 | Sat | * Sat grins |
20:02:46 | Sat | and they get PAID! |
20:02:55 | Lucifer | certainly fits my observations |
20:03:00 | rhino | new emergent agents such as the corporation keep pushing us forth |
20:03:01 | rhino | they say that if they don't keep pushing they will go belly up |
20:03:15 | localroger | It's not that we choose to work for the most part, it's that society is quite deliberately structured at every level to coerce us to work. That, or starve. |
20:03:17 | Lucifer | times keep get leaner |
20:03:28 | Lucifer | more layoffs means more work for everyone left |
20:03:52 | Lucifer | we are constantly encouraged to work more efficiently and smarter to increase productivity |
20:04:22 | localroger | ...although when society doesn't happen to need our work, we are disposable and we are left to starve. |
20:04:31 | Lucifer | How many people would actually starve if their paycheck was cut 20% or 40%? |
20:04:53 | localroger | Hey, back when I was making a lot less I deliberately went to 24 hr work week for a few years. |
20:05:08 | Lucifer | why? |
20:05:38 | rhino | a problem is that this non-human agent, the corporation, has to compete and win |
20:05:39 | rhino | and it won't let us slack |
20:05:39 | localroger | I wanted the time for personal projects and the topic at hand. The reason I went back to 40 hrs was they needed me enough to pay enough to drag me back. |