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The GOP's accusations of Obama racism
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Iowa Republican: Obama favors blacks over whites
By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer – Tue Jun 15, 7:05 pm ET


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Rep. Steve King, known for sometimes incendiary remarks about immigration, Abu Ghraib and other issues, criticized Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, who also is black, in an interview Monday on G. Gordon Liddy's nationally syndicated radio talk show.
"I'm offended by Eric Holder and the president also, their posture," said King, 61. "It looks like Eric Holder said that white people in America are cowards when it comes to race."
King continued: "The president has demonstrated that he has a default mechanism in him that breaks down the side of race on the side that favors the black person in the case of professor Gates and officer Crowley."


[Mo]Before we get too far here - this is the G. Gordon Liddy show, please let me share some wiki - here the very first paragraph of his Wikipedia entry @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_Gordon_Liddy


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George Gordon Battle Liddy (born November 30, 1930) was the chief operative for the White House Plumbers unit that existed during several years of Richard Nixon's Presidency. Along with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy masterminded the first break-in of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate building in 1972. The subsequent cover-up of the Watergate scandal led to Nixon's resignation in 1974; Liddy served four and a half years in prison for his role in the burglary.


[Mo] Given the context of media event - an EXTREME republican right wing audience willing to endorse criminal acts in behalf of their wanting to "take their country back", I think some non-US audiences in the Church of Virus can better understand the messages that we are hearing and better digest what I next have to say:

[Mo] A few months ago, there was a national Harris poll of self-identified Republicans, and of those who self identified, 45% agreed that Obama was likely not a real citizen of the US (in other words actually born in Kenya, or Indonesia etc.). At over a year after his election, I think this response falls into the same category as an inadvertent, or even overt admission of good 'ole fashioned racist bigotry. That is the "base" that this guy is appealing to. In the bad 'ole days they just came straight out and said "A nigger shouldn't be telling white folk what to do". Now they make up loopy conspiracy theories about Obama's birth certificate and scream loudly that Obama is really the racist, perhaps even Hitler's reincarnation.

[Mo] So those are my thoughts and reactions, such as they are for this low brow race monger. I'm sure he would imagine some fine intellectual points of his I'm overlooking, but I think . . . not so much. If you doubt me check out the full story at the link. I've quoted his most promising point already, and he only gets stupider from there. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100615/ap_on_go_co/us_iowa_congressman_obama
File photo of Republican Iowa congressman and US race-baiter Steve King attached.

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This seemed to fit into this dialogue.

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The Republicans
What's wrong with America's right


Too much anger and too few ideas. America needs a better alternative to Barack Obama

Source: The Economist
Author: Print Edition
Date: Jun 10th 2010



HAPPY days are here again for the Republicans, or so you might think. Barack Obama’s popularity rating is sagging well below 50%. Passing health-care reform has done nothing to help him; most Americans believe he has wasted their money—and their view of how he is dealing with the economy is no less jaded. Although growth has returned, the latest jobs figures are dismal and house repossessions continue to rise. And now his perceived failure to get a grip on the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is hurting him; some critics call it his Hurricane Katrina; others recall Jimmy Carter’s long, enervating hostage crisis in Iran. Sixty per cent of Americans think the country is on the wrong track.

All 435 seats in the House are up for grabs in November. The polls portend heavy losses for the Democrats, who currently enjoy a 39-seat majority there. Quite possibly, they will lose control of it. The Republicans stand less chance of winning the Senate, where a third of the seats are contested this year, but they should win enough to make it almost impossible for the Democrats to break a filibuster there by picking off a Republican or two. The second two years of Mr Obama’s presidency look like being a lot tougher than the first.


Malice in Wonderland

Mr Obama deserves to be pegged back. This newspaper supported him in 2008 and backed his disappointing-but-necessary health-care plan. But he has done little to fix the deficit, shown a zeal for big government and all too often given the impression that capitalism is something unpleasant he found on the sole of his sneaker. America desperately needs a strong opposition. So it is sad to report that the American right is in a mess: fratricidal, increasingly extreme on many issues and woefully short of ideas, let alone solutions.

This matters far beyond America’s shores. For most of the past half-century, conservative America has been a wellspring of new ideas—especially about slimming government. At a time when redesigning the state is a priority around the world, the right’s dysfunctionality is especially unfortunate.

The Republicans at the moment are less a party than an ongoing civil war (with, from a centrist point of view, the wrong side usually winning). There is a dwindling band of moderate Republicans who understand that they have to work with the Democrats in the interests of America. There is the old intolerant, gun-toting, immigrant-bashing, mainly southern right which sees any form of co-operation as treachery, even blasphemy. And muddying the whole picture is the tea-party movement, a tax revolt whose activists (some clever, some dotty, all angry) seem to loathe Bush-era free-spending Republicans as much as they hate Democrats. Egged on by a hysterical blogosphere and the ravings of Fox News blowhards, the Republican Party has turned upon itself (see article).

Optimists say this is no more than the vigorous debate that defines the American primary system. They rightly point out that American conservatism has always been a broad church and the battle is not all one way. This week California’s Republicans chose two relatively moderate former chief executives, Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina, to run for governor and the Senate. But both had to dive to the right to win, which will not help them in November. And in neighbouring Nevada the Republicans chose a tea-partier so extreme that she may yet allow Harry Reid, the unloved Democratic Senate leader, to hang on to his seat. Many of the battles are indeed nastier than normal: witness the squabble in Florida, where the popular governor, Charlie Crist, has left the party; Senator Lindsey Graham walking away from climate-change legislation for fear of vile personal attacks; and even John McCain, who has battled with the southern-fried crazies in his party for decades, joining the chorus against Mexican “illegals” to keep his seat.

As for ideas, the Republicans seem to be reducing themselves into exactly what the Democrats say they are: the nasty party of No. They may well lambast Mr Obama for expanding the federal deficit; but it is less impressive when they are unable to suggest alternatives. Paul Ryan, a bright young congressman from Wisconsin, has a plan to restore the budget to balance; it has sunk without a trace. During the row over health care, the right demanded smaller deficits but refused to countenance any cuts in medical spending on the elderly. Cutting back military spending is denounced as surrender to the enemy. Tax rises of any kind (even allowing the unaffordable Bush tax cuts to expire as scheduled) are evil.

This lack of coherence extends beyond the deficit. Do Republicans favour state bail-outs for banks or not? If they are against them, as they protest, why are they doing everything they can to sabotage a financial-reform bill that will make them less likely? Is the party of “drill, baby, drill” in favour of tighter regulation of oil companies or not? If not, why is it berating Mr Obama for events a mile beneath the ocean? Many of America’s most prominent business leaders are privately as disappointed by the right as they are by the statist Mr Obama.


Down the rabbit hole and beyond the Palin

Out of power, a party can get away with such negative ambiguity; the business of an opposition is to oppose. The real problem for the political right may well come if it wins in November. Just as the party found after it seized Congress in 1994, voters expect solutions, not just rage. The electorate jumped back into Bill Clinton’s arms in 1996. Business conservatives are scouting desperately for an efficient centrist governor (or perhaps general) to run against Mr Obama in 2012. But tea-party-driven success in the mid-terms could foster the illusion that the Republicans lost the White House because Mr McCain was insufficiently close to their base. That logic is more likely to lead to Palin-Huckabee in 2012 than, say, Petraeus-Daniels.

Britain’s Conservatives, cast out of power after 18 years in 1997, made that mistake, trying a succession of right-wingers. Only with the accession of the centrist David Cameron in 2005 did the party begin to recover as he set about changing its rhetoric. There may be a lesson in that for the Republicans—and it is not too late to take it.
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Joe Dees, AKA "Salamantis", brings us several articles about these two men from the Black Panther Party standing outside a polling station during the 2008 election, one of them carrying a billy-club.

Let me start out by saying 1st, that this is a very very very BAD idea. Nobody should be bringing weapons near polling stations under remotely normal circumstances, and in any case should not be displaying them. I'm not actually interested in defending their actions in any way, however the issue isn't really what they did but what the US DoJ should or should not do about this.

2nd, I skimmed through Joe Dee's articles, did a quick google search, skimmed a few news articles and watched the only actual video I could quickly find on the internet of these two men - one with a billy club. These guys never actually entered the polling location. And while these political commentators implied actual voters were intimidated according to the actual news articles none of the people complaining were actually voters attempting to vote. Instead they were poll watchers. And while I understand there were some affidavits from witnesses, even the right wing mouths failed to quote or cite any account from any actual voter for what they claim is a "textbook case" of voter intimidation. Obviously they aren't in the textbook business and don't have a real case involving a real voter. If there is something I'm missing about this please let me know and show me an actual source, and not just some talking head exaggerating.

I've been a poll watcher too, and every one of them that I've met, including myself, are extremely biased about what is going on at the polling station. No poll watcher is actually hired by any governmental entity to my knowledge. They are all employed by or working on behalf of groups who are interested, or are themselves interested in getting their own way on election day. Occasionally they may work for a news organization, but even those people are biased. Your regular general news outlets don't normally bother hiring or qualifying poll watchers. Generally you have to make an application to be one ahead of time, which mostly serves the purpose of informing the potential poll watcher of the rules, mostly that they can't actually interact or interfere with the voters or the poll workers - just observe.

Finally, it seems to me that while the guy with the billy club was escorted away from the location by police, no charges were filed by the PD or the local District Attorney, which leads one to assume (though not necessarily with finality) that nobody in local law enforcement felt this was an extra-ordinary problem (in theory possibly not even violation of non-federal law depending on the particular jurisdiction and circumstances), and that no actual voters registered at that polling location reported feeling intimidated either at that time or after the fact. Apparently even these poll watchers didn't bother to press any personal harassment or terroristic threat charges against these men with the local authorities. If there was any truth to their own claims certainly they had a case under everyday non-federal criminal law. Instead they chose to prosecute their allegations in the media spotlight instead of on the witness stand in an ordinary criminal court.

If this much is correct, I see nothing appropriate for making a federal case over this, but rather a case for deferring to local law enforcement discretion. Just to finish, I don't begrudge anyone raising a big media issue out of it - indeed I actually encourage THAT kind of reaction. That seems entirely appropriate and it would even disappoint me if I it didn't make the news. This man with the billy club and his partner standing at his side were incredibly stupid and very lucky it was only a bunch of extreme partisan hacks and media folks who got angry with him about it - but that alone does not make this a federal case. As little as I understand of this situation, you still need to have actual voter intimidation or interference before federal jurisdiction becomes an issue, as federal jurisdiction is constitutionally much more limited than local law enforcement.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, as I've only spent less than hour on this so far. I think the Department of Justice's decision to drop the case was entirely appropriate.
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Joe Dees fails to address any of the issues I raised and instead resorts to more extensive pastings of conservative commentary unrelated to the actual legal issues. The fact remains you can't have a case of voter intimidation without any actual voters. It really is that simple. So I don't really see any point in continuing anymore actual discussion of this case. I did read all of Dees' pasted stuff, so instead I thought I would just paste in some material from Main Justice dealing with all the inaccuracies spouted by this Adams guy and his credentials. J Christian Adams is basically the driving force behind this GOP race baiting propaganda project claiming bogus voter intimidation. All the conservative commentary traces back to him so we should really just deal with the original source rather than the army of talking dittoheads behind him.

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On Fox News, ex-Civil Rights Division Lawyer Blasts DOJ

By Mary Jacoby | July 2, 2010 1:19 am


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Former Civil Rights Division lawyer J. Christian Adams has escalated his war with the Department of Justice, giving a two-part interview to Fox News asserting that racial motivations were behind dismissal of a voter intimidation case against members of the New Black Panther Party.

And for the first time, the Justice Department has criticized J. Christian Adams‘ own motivations on the record.

The November 2008 incident at a Philadelphia polling place has become a cause celebre for conservatives. Two members of the anti-white fringe group stood outside the polling place in military-style garb, one of them holding a night stick.

The Obama DOJ dismissed the case last year, citing a lack of a pattern of intimidation and the fact that one of the Black Panthers was a registered Democratic poll watcher. The DOJ obtained an injunction against the Black Panther who carried the nightstick.

“You’re supposed to be able to go vote without somebody with a weapon shouting racist slurs at you,” Adams said in his first Fox News interview on Wednesday. “They said, ‘You’re about to be ruled by the black man, Cracker.’ They called people ‘white devils.’ They tried to stop people from entering the polls.”

In fact, no voters at all in the Philadelphia precinct have come forward to allege intimidation. The complaints have come from white Republican poll watchers, who have given no evidence they were registered to vote in the majority black precinct.

An Associated Press story inaccurately described the scene as one where white voters were being intimidated by the Black Panther members. The only white people at the scene that day appeared to be the Republican poll watchers. And Fox News host Megyn Kelly inaccurately described video taken of the incident as made by a “voter.” In fact, the video was made by Stephen Robert Morse, a blogger hired by the local Republican Party on behalf of the John McCain presidential campaign.

The Philadelphia video also did not capture any racial slurs, although the two Black Panthers were shown in an earlier National Geographic documentary using derogatory terms against whites. The Southern Poverty Law Center has classified the New Black Panther Party as a hate group.

“It is not uncommon for attorneys within the department to have good faith disagreements about the appropriate course of action in a particular case, although it is regrettable when a former department attorney distorts the facts and makes baseless allegations to promote his or her agenda,” Justice Department spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler told Fox News in a written statement.


the rest of the story:http://www.mainjustice.com/2010/07/02/on-fox-news-ex-civil-rights-division-lawyer-blasts-doj/



Adams Hired For Conservative Credentials, Former DOJ Official Says

By Ryan J. Reilly | July 6, 2010 11:00 am


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A former Justice Department official told Main Justice that the attorney behind the controversial New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case was hired in the Civil Rights Division Voting Section under a process the DOJ Inspector General later determined was improperly influenced by politics.

Joseph Rich, the former chief of the Civil Rights Division’s Voting Section and a 36-year employee of the Department of Justice, said that shortly before he left the DOJ in 2005 he received a call from Bradley Schlozman, then a Deputy Assistant Attorney General who later became acting Assistant Attorney General of the Civil Rights Division.

Rich was later one of several employees who were quoted in a Justice Department Inspector General’s report, which concluded the hiring process used by Schlozman was improperly politicized. Rich, a liberal-leaning critic of the Civil Rights Division management during the George W. Bush administration, also wrote about his experiences for The Los Angeles Times.

Rich said Schlozman asked him to attend an interview with J. Christian Adams, a solo practitioner from Alexandria, Va., who had worked for the Secretary of State in South Carolina. Adams had also volunteered for the Republican National Lawyers Association, a GOP-funded group that sought to draw attention to voting fraud.

Adams did not have an extensive background in civil rights, Rich said, but may have had limited voting rights experience from his time in South Carolina. “He is exhibit A of the type of people hired by Schlozman,” Rich said.

Rich said he sat in on the interview, but Schlozman asked most of the questions. There was no discussion of Adams’ political background at the meeting, according to Rich. Adams was offered the position shortly thereafter, and Rich said he doesn’t believe anyone else was interviewed for the job.

“I was invited to the interview but was never asked for a recommendation,” Rich said.”This was an example of the way things were being done. There’s no evidence that this was a normal hiring process.” As a supervisor, Rich said, he normally would have been involved in hiring decisions.

Contacted by Main Justice, Adams did not dispute Rich’s account, but said that during the interview he discussed his background representing indigent clients.


the rest of the story: http://www.mainjustice.com/2010/07/06/adams-hired-for-conservative-credentials-former-doj-official-says/
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Such refreshing honesty they are getting in New Hampshire. This Republican candidate could really teach the birthers a few things about integrity. The GOP needs all the honesty they can get. They're starved for it over there. They should latch on to this guy like there is no tomorrow. Not that I'm biased or anything

-Mo

Candidate: Keep state's complexion white
Murdough says he isn't racist, either

By Ray Duckler / Monitor columnist
July 11, 2010




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It's a matter of black and white, says Ryan Murdough, Republican candidate for the State House in Grafton County's 8th District.

No room for gray area. And no room for Asians or Hispanics or Jews or African-Americans or American Indians, either.

Just Americans. Real Americans. Plymouth Rock Americans. White Americans who bleed red, white and blue. Uncle Sam wants them. To anyone else, don't let Lady Liberty hit you on the butt on your way out of New York Harbor.

You're not welcome here.

"I would like to preserve what we have before it gets totally out of control," Murdough, a 30-year-old father of two young boys, said last week. "The more it becomes non-white, the more it's going to become a much different place to live, for white people especially."

full article at: http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/candidate-keep-states-complexion-white
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