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[Blunderov] The world would be a better place without Israel. Fuck Israel.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0531/Israel-s-deadly-Gaza-flotilla-raid-sparks-diplomatic-crisis

<snip>It will have a huge impact," says Alon Liel, a former Israeli diplomat. Mr. Liel said the incident could undermine peace talks with the Palestinians</snip>

[Bl.] So, mission accomplished then. Obama has been scuppered. Fuck Israel.
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I'm not sure what to think of Blunderov's point, however given present news, I can't help but wonder if the Israeli leadership isn't looking to provoke a bit, not entirely unlike our North Korean brethren sinking a military target while pretending not to. So yeah, on these two counts, fuck North Korea, and fuck Israel. I'm sure they'll get over it. They usually do.
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and then we have this point of view .....
http://europebusines.blogspot.com/2010/05/premeditated-mass-murder-on-high-seas.html
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[Blunderov] The sooner Israel is wiped from the page of time the better. Fuck Israel.


http://leninology.blogspot.com/2010/05/reason-for-slaughter-of-free-gaza.html

Monday, May 31, 2010

The reason for the slaughter of the Free Gaza activists

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The Israeli government and media has been vilifying the Free Gaza movement in a rabid build-up for weeks, but who would have anticipated this bloody culmination? Who would have expected this act of high seas piracy? Israeli claims that they were fired at, or even attacked with "knives" and "other cold weapons" when they illegally boarded the flotilla, before going on to stalk the sleeping and the innocent can surely be dismissed as vulgar propaganda. From the people who gave us the fastest re-definition of the term 'civilian' of any belligerent state in recent history, such talk is emetic. The idea that there was a "fight", any kind of meaningful combat, between unarmed peace activists and trained killers is just absurd. But let's note a few things. For a start, it is Israel's official contention that there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza, that their murderous blockade has no severe consequences for the people of Gaza, even at the same time as their official spokespersons speak of Gaza explicitly in the language of genocide. This after the Goldstone report and a mountain of evidence compiled by relief agencies and NGOs documenting the effects of Israel's blockade. It is, of course, absurd and despicable, but it should remind us what kind of state we're dealing with, what kind of logical somersaults it is capable of performing while maintaing perfect equanimity.

Now recall that for weeks the Israeli state has been declaring that the aid flotilla constitutes a violent attack on Israeli sovereignty, though Israel has no sovereign right to police the borders of Gaza. They claimed that the convoy was bringing assistance to terrorists, and warned that it was being funded by the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood. They claim that such aid vessels help keep Hamas in power and Gilad Shalit (who he?) locked up. They claim that the convoy, rather than the blockade itself, constitutes a violation of international law. Israel's ability to exhale falsehoods and absurdities seamlessly, poker-faced, and then to suddenly and without missing a beat alter its story when it becomes clear that not even its loyalist drones are gullible enough to believe it, is not unique but it has a unique pedigree. For the Israeli state is singular in its self-righteousness. This is built in to official doctrine and practise, entrenched in its forms of governmentality. It is always the victim, no matter what it's doing today - whether slaughtering refugees in Sabra and Shatilla, or murdering sleeping families in Dahiya, from Nakba to Cast Lead - it is always on the precipice of being exterminated by a new wave of Arab Nazis. Given this, any effort to undermine its 'defensive' actions is an attack not only on its expansive notions of sovereignty, but on the 'Jewish state'.

By the logic of Israel, any abridgment of its right to murder Palestinians constitutes an act of antisemitism, an existential attack on the Jewish people, whom they represent by proxy. Its job, then, is to do whatever it deems fit in discouraging and punishing said 'antisemites' while aggressively retailing whatever they do to an increasingly hostile world which, at any rate, they insist is driven by exterminationist antisemitism anyway. If the two ends - the violent preservation of Israeli supremacy in the Middle East, and the global PR - increasingly come into conflict, this is only because of a 'new antisemitism', not because of anything Israel actually does.

In other words, by the twisted logic of Zionism: Israel can impose a blockade on Gaza that systematically starves civilians, leaves them to die without medicine, destroys their sewage and power systems, leaves them utterly dependent on international aid delivery which it imposes the most grotesque restrictions on; then it can demonise and assault an aid flotilla intended to break the blockade, fire on the residents, murder people in their sleep, the better to deter anyone from attempting to violate its supremacy in Palestine again; then it can manufacture whatever story it requires to force a hostile world to accept its actions, muddy the waters, juggle narratives, befuddle and confuse people, following up one bit of legerdemain with yet another and another, etc; and it can do all this while remaining the perpetual victim (remember Sderot!), while doing nothing more than defending itself, defending its famed "right to exist", and by proxy the right of the Jewish people to exist. That, the logic of Zionism upon which the Israeli state is founded, alone explains the insane combination of thuggishness, deceit, secrecy and sanctimony that has always characterised Israel's conduct.

Meanwhile, the British government is rapidly moving to fulfil its promise to make it possible for Israeli war criminals to visit the UK without being disturbed by Inspector Knacker.
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[letheomaniac] Religion comes in 50 flavours of stupid.

Source: Information Clearing House/Ynet
Author: Tzvika Brot
Dated: 16/8/10

Israel's Useful Idiots
Christian Students to Defend Israel Abroad

Knesset lobby recruits Christian 'ambassadors' to counter pro-Palestinian campaigns against Israel on overseas campuses. 'When you send a Jewish student, they immediately say he's not objective,' explains MK Yoel Hasson

In recent years, more and more Israeli politicians lecturing in universities abroad have had to deal with disturbances stirred up by pro-Palestinian students, forcing them to halt their lectures, or even canceling them altogether.

The recent phenomenon led Knesset members to come up with a creative solution, realizing the response to Muslim demonstrations of force will not come from young Jewish students, but rather from Christian ones, who are just as eager to defend Israel.

The Knesset for Christian Allies Caucus lobby, headed by Knesset Member David Rotem (Yisrael Beiteinu), began locating and training Christian students in every prestigious university and collage in North America and Europe, with the aim of establishing a non-Jewish support group that will represent the Israeli side in each campus.

The lobby, which includes dozens of MKs from all across the political spectrum, is considered one of the most active lobbies in the Knesset.

As part of the initiative, lobby members contacted Evangelical organization Eagles' Wings, which helped them locate suitable Christian students abroad. The admission requirements: Both written and oral eloquence and the ability to speak in front of an audience.

So far, 150 students have been trained for the program, while the aim is to train an additional 30 students annually. The "ambassadors" undergo public relations courses, visit Israel and meet with politicians, members of the academy and Foreign Ministry diplomats.

The last group of 15 students to visit Israel, concluded their trip only 10 days ago.

"When you send a Jewish student to defend Israel, they immediately say he's not objective," explained lobby member MK Yoel Hasson (Kadima).

"However, when a large group of Christian students presents the truth about Israel from the standpoint of a non-Jew – that Israel is not a military state, but an advanced high-tech country – it has a twofold value," he added. [letheomaniac] I fail to see how Israel being "an advanced high-tech country" precludes it from being a military state. As a matter of fact, the most heavily industrialized nations in the world are also the most heavily armed and the most belligerent.

Thus far, Israel support groups have been established at Oxford University in Britain, Amsterdam University in The Netherlands, and Berkley, Georgetown and Florida Universities in the Unites States, as well as the prestigious American colleges Wheaton and Pepperdine.

"This initiative has the potential to turn the tide in favor of Israel on campuses throughout the United States and Europe," said Director of Knesset Christian Allies Caucus Josh Reinstein.

The participating students, on their part, said they were receiving positive feedback.

"We do not engage in political debates," explained one of the Christian students, "but instead talk about issues everyone can relate to. It's the simple truth about Israel. If we wouldn't talk about it, no one else would have countered the horrible lies that are being spread against you," he said.
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I posted this as its own thread at http://www.churchofvirus.org/bbs/index.php?board=69;action=display;threadid=43491 but think it belongs in this discussion as well.

I confess I really don't care about Israeli/Palestinian conflict much more than any other conflict around the world, but Netanyahu's expressed attitude towards the US did catch my attention. Sadly I'd have to say his assessment about our absurd level of support for Israel and therefore how easily we are duped seems plausible and probably accurate.

-Mo

Netanyahu: I deceived US to destroy Oslo accords
Damaging video released


By Jonathan Cook in Nazareth


24 July 2010

http://www.redress.cc/palestine/jcook20100724#trans

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There is one video Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, must be praying never gets posted on YouTube with English subtitles. To date, the 10-minute segment has been broadcast only in Hebrew on Israel’s Channel 10. [Editor’s note: A version of the Natanyahu video with English subtitles is now available and can be viewed, together with the translated English transcript, here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl60X_jOsR0.]

Its contents, however, threaten to gravely embarrass not only Mr Netanyahu but also the US administration of Barack Obama.

The film was shot, apparently without Mr Netanyahu’s knowledge, nine years ago, when the government of Ariel Sharon had started reinvading the main cities of the West Bank to crush Palestinian resistance in the early stages of the second intifada.

At the time Mr Netanyahu had taken a short break from politics but was soon to join Mr Sharon’s government as finance minister.

On a visit to a home in the settlement of Ofra in the West Bank to pay condolences to the family of a man killed in a Palestinian shooting attack, he makes a series of unguarded admissions about his first period as prime minister, from 1996 to 1999.

Seated on a sofa in the house, he tells the family that he deceived the US president of the time, Bill Clinton, into believing he was helping implement the Oslo accords, the US-sponsored peace process between Israel and the Palestinians, by making minor withdrawals from the West Bank while actually entrenching the occupation. He boasts that he thereby destroyed the Oslo process.

He dismisses the US as “easily moved to the right direction” and calls high levels of popular American support for Israel “absurd”.

He also suggests that, far from being defensive, Israel’s harsh military repression of the Palestinian uprising was designed chiefly to crush the Palestinian Authority led by Yasser Arafat so that it could be made more pliable for Israeli diktats.

All of these claims have obvious parallels with the current situation, when Mr Netanyahu is again Israel’s prime minister facing off with a White House trying to draw him into a peace process that runs counter to his political agenda.

full story:http://www.redress.cc/palestine/jcook20100724#trans
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[letheomaniac] South African corruption + Israeli corruption = an unholy alliance.

Source: Times Live
Author: Nivashni Nair
Dated: 15/9/2010

Netcare charged in organs-for-cash scam

South Africa's leading private hospital group, its chief executive, and five top Durban doctors have been criminally charged for their alleged roles in an international kidneys-for-sale syndicate.

Netcare, its head, Richard Friedland, Durban's St Augustine's Hospital, two transplant unit staff and an Israeli interpreter were yesterday served with summons on 11 charges. These include 109 counts of fraud, 21 counts of forgery, 21 counts of uttering, 109 counts of serious assault, and charges of contravening the Human Tissues Act and the Prevention of Organised Crime Act. [letheomaniac] Under Roman-Dutch law "uttering" (defined as the act of issuing a false document) and forgery are regarded as being separate crimes and are prosecuted as such.

Charged yesterday were transplant unit staff Lindy Dickson and Melanie Azor, and Israeli interpreter Samuel Ziegler.

Prominent kidney specialist Jeffrey Kallmeyer, specialist surgeons and two top academics, professors John Robbs and Ariff Haffejee, and doctors Neil Christopher and Mahadev Naidoo, are expected to be summonsed today.

They will appear together in a Durban court in November.

According to the charge sheet, the 11 accused were involved in an "illegal scheme" to give kidney transplants to wealthy Israelis, using organs donated by poor Brazilians, Romanians and Israelis.

To legitimise the surgery, documents were allegedly forged to show that the donor and the recipient were related - a requirement in South Africa.

After the syndicate was exposed in 2003, five doctors were arrested two years later. Netcare was not implicated.

However, after the charges against the doctors were dropped and a new investigation started, the state brought charges against Netcare for allegedly setting up the syndicate with Kallmeyer and an Israeli "organ broker", Ilan Perry, who has turned state witness.

"Israeli citizens in need of kidney transplants would be brought to South Africa for transplants at StAugustine's Hospital. They paid kidney suppliers for these operations . [the kidneys] were initially sourced from Israeli citizens, but later Romanian and Brazilian citizens were recruited as their kidneys were obtainable at a much lower cost than those of the Israeli suppliers," the charge sheet states.

Recipients are alleged to have paid Perry between R700000 and R850000 to arrange a kidney transplant in South Africa.

"The Israeli kidney suppliers were paid approximately $20000 [R141000]. Later, cheaper suppliers were sourced among Romanian and Brazilian citizens, who were paid, on average, about $6000 [R42000] for their kidneys," the state alleges.

Perry's company, UDG, or its agents, are alleged to have paid StAugustine's Hospital before each transplant operation.

"Netcare and Netcare KwaZulu-Natal, trading as StAugustine's Hospital, would receive payments from UDG or Perry and would disburse the money received to other accused and service providers, including the surgeons, for their services," the charge sheet states.

Payments to Kallmeyer are believed to have been made into his Canadian bank account. At the start of the investigation, Kallmeyer fled the country and the police have not located him.

The state alleges that Friedland was, as chief executive of the Netcare group and a director of StAugustine's Hospital, aware of the illegal kidney trade at the hospital, but "nevertheless permitted these operations" to continue.

The state also holds him responsible for the conduct of the Netcare staff alleged to have worked closely with the syndicate.

But yesterday, Friedland denied the charges.

Netcare spokesman Martina Nicholson said: "After several years of co-operating fully with the police and providing the investigating officer with countless affidavits, it has come as a great surprise and disappointment that the prosecuting authority has seen fit to bring charges against Netcare Ltd, Netcare KZN, and Richard Friedland.

"[They] vigorously deny any wrongdoing and intend to defend the charges."

The state has convicted two of the alleged syndicate's South African "co-ordinators", Roderick Kimberly and Sushan Meir, who both pleaded guilty to related charges. Meir has since died.

A Brazilian court sentenced kidney-donor recruiters Captain Ivan da Silva and Gaby Tauber to eight years in jail for their roles in the syndicate.

"There is a worldwide shortage of organ donors from deceased persons. The only other source of donors is living people," said a document included in the indictment.

All countries, with the exception of Iran, prohibit the sale of organs or human tissue.
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I struggle with this Thread and have not found a purposeful comment, but Mr. Hitchens expresses some of my concerns.

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Source: Atlantic
Author: Christopher Hitchens
Date: September 2010



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Honored recently with an invitation from the family of Daniel Pearl to give the annual memorial lecture that bears his name, I tried to speak about the protean character of the world’s most ancient and tenacious prejudice. The Passover Haggadah speaks of Jew-hatred or attempted Judeocide as something that happens in every generation, but as true as this may be, it is of little help in making distinctions. There is, probably first and certainly foremost, religious anti-Semitism. Unlike other nations or peoples, Jews were among the witnesses to the alleged lives and preachings of Jesus and Muhammad, and turned away from men they deemed false Messiahs. It is inconceivable that they will ever be quite forgiven for doing so. Most medieval Christian anti-Semitism was of the “Christ killer” sort, usually enriched by lurid allegations about ritual slaughter and the ineffaceable nonreligious but actually racial deformities (body odor, birthmarks) that branded the Jew as outcast. After the deportation of Jews from Christian Spain, the Muslim Ottoman Empire kept up a tradition of “tolerance,” allowing large Sephardic communities in European cities as diverse as Salonika and Sarajevo as well as on the North African littoral. But the Jews of the Arab lands were expelled again in revenge for the defeat of Palestinian nationalism in 1947–48, and now the most evil and discredited fabrication of Jew-baiting Christian Europe—The Protocols of the Elders of Zion—is eagerly promulgated in the Hamas charter and on the group’s Web site and recycled through a whole nexus of outlets that includes schools as well as state-run television stations.

This might license the view that the sickness is somehow ineradicable and not even subject to rational analysis, let alone to rationalization. Anti-Semitism has flourished without banking or capitalism (for which Jews were at one time blamed) and without Communism (for which they were also blamed). It has existed without Zionism (of which leading Jews were at one time the only critics) and without the state of Israel. There has even been anti-Semitism without Jews, in states like Malaysia whose political leaders are paranoid demagogues looking for a scapegoat. This is enough to demonstrate that anti-Semitism is not a mere prejudice like any other: Sinhalese who don’t like Tamils, or Hutu who regard Tutsi as “cockroaches,” do not accuse their despised neighbors of harboring a plan—or of possessing the ability—to bring off a secret world government based on the occult control of finance.

Paradoxically, then, there is something almost flattering about anti-Jewish racism. To have been confined in the ghetto for so long, and then to be held responsible for Marx, Freud, and Einstein, to say nothing of Rothschild … Yet the outcome is always the same: to be treated as human refuse and to be either deported or massacred. Jean-Paul Sartre’s essay profiling the anti-Semite has many shortcomings, but it’s hard to argue with his conclusion that such a person must necessarily carry a thirst for murder in his heart. Yet this is perhaps true of other racists as well. What strikes the eye about anti-Semitism is the godfather role it plays as the organizing principle of other bigotries. The Nazis may well have thought of Slavs and Poles as less than human, but it was the hatred of Jewry that cemented their worldview (and, horribly enough, gave them something in common with many of their Slavic and Polish victims).

Given the salience of this, it’s of some importance to teach ourselves to make distinctions. Robert Wistrich has been writing about this subject for a considerable time, and has succeeded in retelling the old and dolorous tale of witch-hunting, Inquisition, and pogrom in such a way as to furnish a solid work of reference. Yet for him, almost any piece of anti-Jewish graffiti is to be taken as seriously as the Protocols themselves, and virtually all propaganda against the state of Israel participates in an ancient agenda that has extermination as its object.

Thus, according to him, in 1982, after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon:

    In Italy, shortly before Yasser Arafat was granted a hero’s welcome by the government, no fewer than two hundred thousand trade unionists passed before the Holocaust memorial of a Rome synagogue uttering cries of “Death to the Jews” and “Jews to the ovens.”

This simply did not take place as described. It is probable that some in that crowd shouted some of those things, but the Italian labor movement is not like that, as Wistrich knows full well. Nor does he mention that 300,000 Israeli Jews demonstrated in Tel Aviv at the same time over their revulsion at the massacre of Palestinians in Beirut by an Israeli-supported Phalange party that had been a historical sympathizer of National Socialism. At that time, too, Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon attempted to meet any criticism of their complicity in crimes by terming it “blood libel.” One does not want such a grave charge as that to be degraded by propaganda to the point where it meets diminishing returns.

Wistrich is not the only one sickened to see half-baked pro-Palestinian protesters superimposing the swastika on the Star of David (especially when some of the protesters don’t actually think the swastika was all that bad to begin with). But this is an auction of imagery that was started by Begin and other Israeli extremists who once openly and regularly compared the PLO to the Nazi Party. Yeshayahu Leibowitz, editor of the Encyclopaedia Judaica, used the dubious term Judeo-Nazi to describe elements of the Israeli settler movement as early as 1967: you could hardly guess at the existence of critics like him if Wistrich was all you had to go on. (Wistrich does devote a little space to the idea of the “self-hating” Jew, another catch-all propaganda device, most recently employed by Netanyahu fans to describe David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel.)

In some contrast, Anthony Julius’s study of the phenomenon in its English form is punctilious and specific. You “catch it on the edge of a remark,” as Harold Abrahams observes of non-philo-Semitism in Chariots of Fire. And if by chance you miss it, Julius will be there to catch it for you:

    Scoffs and scorns, which are predicated on a sense of difference, may be evidence of nothing more than a certain amused contempt. I have several proof texts for this proposition: a World War I memoir, Adrian Bell’s Corduroy, a passage from one of Macaulay’s letters, a Balliol College rhyme, and then, by way of identifying the limit of this perspective, a short prose piece of Virginia Woolf’s and a remark of a Cambridge don.

And, by Jove, so he does deploy all these arcane “proof texts.” Indeed, his long section on British literary anti-Semitism is a small masterpiece of research, improving on his earlier study of T. S. Eliot’s Judeophobia. It was “free-thinking Jews,” remember, whom Eliot deplored in After Strange Gods. Medieval English authors like Chaucer dealt in the Christian stereotypes of their day, and Shylock and Fagin have troubled Jews for many years, but Shakespeare included all the reasons why a Jewish moneylender in Christian Venice might feel resentful. Dickens went to considerable trouble to amend the text of Oliver Twist (and to create a sympathetic Jewish character in Our Mutual Friend). George Eliot, who would be the heroine of this story if it had a heroine, exerted herself to learn the Hebrew language and Jewish history before embarking on Daniel Deronda. She also formulated a ban that still stands. As she wrote to Harriet Beecher Stowe:

    Can anything be more disgusting than to hear people called “educated” making small jokes about eating ham, and showing themselves empty of any real knowledge as to the relation of their own social and religious life to the history of the people they think themselves witty in insulting? … The best thing that can be said of it is, that it is a sign of the intellectual narrowness—in plain English, the stupidity which is still the average mark of our culture.

Equating Jew-hatred with being ill-bred and vulgar is still a fairly useful form of damnation in English society. In 1938 the extremely right-wing Evelyn Waugh was writing that British Fascism amounted to little more than “a form of anti-Semitism in the slums.” A few aristocrats did try Fascism as a fashion, or as a political tactic, but they ended up as objects of ridicule or hatred, or both. (By the time Nancy Mitford and P. G. Wodehouse had finished with Sir Oswald Mosley, he was wise to remove himself to France for the pathetic remainder of his career.)

On two other vital questions, also, the English used to be unusually proof against the more paranoid versions of anti-Semitism. For one thing, they had their own biblical concept of themselves as “a chosen people.” Oliver Cromwell—who first allowed the Jews back to England after earlier monarchical expulsions—expressed a view of his countrymen as “God’s elect” that is echoed in literature from Blake to Burke, which often makes explicit comparisons to the children of Israel. Second, when the English of the 19th and early 20th centuries heard tales of a worldwide financial empire that gave a single people the anointed right to rule, they were fairly sure that there was indeed such a thing, and no bad thing either, since it was they who were running it. Few other countries or cultures had such a stolid sense of security.

However, if we examine the single grandest exception to this, which is the self-evident anti-Semitism of that lofty patrician Arthur James Balfour, then we find both of our authors becoming somewhat vague and defensive. There cannot be any doubt that the British debate over the so-called Aliens Act in 1905 was heavily infected with the racial prejudice of a Conservative Party once led by Benjamin Disraeli, yet Wistrich guardedly reports this by saying that “even” Balfour (the actual leader of that party) supported the anti-Jewish agitation. He compounds this by saying that, “ironically enough,” the main opponent of the Balfour Declaration 12 years later was the British Cabinet’s only Jew, Sir Edwin Montagu. It is as if one was forbidden “even” to think that an anti-Semite could favor a separate state for Jews (a phenomenon manifested again by the Christian right in America) or that a British Jew could have a non-“ironic” reason for resenting being told that he belonged in Palestine. Julius gives a fairer and larger account of this wrenching historical episode, but rather shrinks from exploring its implications. A single anecdote that he tells, about the weird press coverage he himself received for being the sharp divorce lawyer for Princess Diana, is enough to persuade one that anti-Jewish caricatures among the English are now both widespread and weak.

I began by saying that anti-Semitism is protean and contradictory, but then, so are Judaism and Zionism. Is there such a thing as “chosenness”? Is there a special “covenant”? Does the state of Israel have the right to speak for all diaspora Jews? Is Israel not in fact a part of the diaspora? Will the Messiah come? Does he take an interest in certain territories and not others? Who is a Jew, anyway? Rabbinical authorities and Israeli spokesmen have proved themselves unable and unqualified to decide these matters, and meanwhile vast numbers of Jews have secularized themselves and become big friends of a smaller Israel. This implied self-criticism of the faith and the project is not self-hatred, nor does it owe anything traceable to the disgusting slanders anatomized by Wistrich and Julius. The chief impetus of anti-Semitism remains theocratic, and in our epoch anti-Semitism has shifted from Christian to Muslim: a more searching inquiry into its origins and nature might begin by asking if faith is not the problem to begin with. This would also entail the related and essential question of whether the toxin of anti-Semitism is a threat only to Jews.





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[Blunderov] Encyclopedia Dramatica is so accurate and informative that it has transcended Wikipedia as the most quoted reference on the internets. This happened last Tuesday and rightly so.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Israel

says it all and more.

“if someone searches [for] ‘the Gaza flotilla,’ we want to be there; to influence what is written there, how it’s written and to ensure that it is balanced and Zionist in nature.”— the fucking source.


"The greatest enemy of the Wikipedia Jews are not the Wikipedia Nazis but heretic and apostate Jews who criticize the party line and are known by the Wikipedia Jews as the Wikipedia Anti-Zionist Self-Hating Jews Who Make It Impossible For Us To Label All Criticism Of Zionism As Anti-Semitic So G-d Do We Hate Them."

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/The_Wikipedia_Jews

[Bl.] Googling "Richard Goldstone" will confirm the accuracy of this statement. See also

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Anti-semitism

"Anti-semitism begins when someone disagrees with a Jew. Because noone can agree with all Jews all the time, everyone is anti-semitic, including all Jews. Some argue this is ironic and cite accusations of anti-semitism a prime example of meaningless noise. Those that argue this are clearly anti-semitic."



ICC can prosecute Israel for aid attack

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20100930&articleId=21250

Global Research, September 30, 2010
Press TV - 2010-09-29

Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:39AM

An international lawyer says that Israel, though not a signatory to the International Criminal Court (ICC) Statute, could be prosecuted for its May attack on the Freedom Flotilla.

The UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) has ordered the investigation of the Israeli attack on the Turkish-flagged aid convoy, saying that there is clear evidence to back prosecution against it.

However, international lawyer Alfred Lambremont Webre surmises that if the case is successfully brought to court, Israel will say it is not a signatory to the ICC Statute.

“That does not matter because the ICC has jurisdiction...the offenses were committed onboard a ship that is a flag state for a signatory to the Rome Statute,” Webre told Press TV on Tuesday

The ship's flag state is the Comoros Islands, which is a member of the court.

Now, the case must be brought to the ICC by the Comoros Islands itself -- or it (the case) could be associated with the ship, or with the Free Gaza Movement, or the family members of the victims, or any other parties, Webre added.

The Turkish-backed aid convoy Freedom Flotilla was stormed by Israeli commandos in international waters on May 31, claiming the lives of nine Turkish human rights activists.

The convoy was trying to deliver thousands of tons of humanitarian supplies to Gaza, which has been under Israeli siege since 2007.



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