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Time to smash it!
« on: 2009-09-16 01:37:23 » |
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[Walter]
I was reading the latest entry in James Kunstler's CN (Clusterfuck Nation) blog earlier:
http://kunstler.com/blog/2009/09/reality-receding.html
Of course, when finished, I HAD to read the comments section. That's where the REAL gems of wisdom are. 
These three comments were in the order shown below, and taken together just somehow made me laugh hysterically. ie. the prison remark.
Maybe I'm just losing it.
Or maybe at age 56, I'm just so damned happy that it's all mostly behind me and not in front of me.
I would gladly help the teens and the twenty & thirty & even forty-somethings try to figure a way out of this mess, but I just don't see a solution set
that's likely to adhere to a large enough portion of the six billion participants to even leave the starting gate.
Maybe it's just axiomatic that things will continue in the general direction they are going until, well, they don't.
Walter
<standing on the chaos|order see-saw and nervously wondering where the fulcrum is>
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Author Profile Page damon | September 14, 2009 11:41 AM | Reply
Jim: Good article, as usual. However, I agree with some of the gist of other posters -- we need to be crystal clear about the well-oiled machine undermining our demise: the incestuous political-financial-industrial cabal, writing laws and funding itself through an infinite loop, an elaborate and unproductive industrial-level scam. And just suggesting this puts me in the marginalized crackpot camp, thus perpetuating the deception.
Delusion is hard enough to deal with, and we must. But, when it's methodically encouraged and reinforced by every "legitimate" system around, very few have a chance! I touched on some of the big players, etc., in some of my comments last week.
You really want to help? Honestly?* Then use your soapbox to clearly highlight the thoroughly corrupt players looting the most, exactly how they are doing it, who is really paying the costs & what these costs are, plus options for unraveling this twisted mess and the consequences (pro/con) of each option.
This is a tall order, yes! But, if even marginally successful, better than the bloody alternative we're rapidly approaching, on a ballistic trajectory.
*I volunteer to help if you're interested...
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Author Profile Page TedC | September 14, 2009 11:41 AM | Reply
I used to be a repair tech for robotic assembly machines for a long time, and I developed a theory about fixing things:
Sometimes you have to just have to smash it first.
Starting with a heap of 'band aids' is a recipe for failure.
I think the same thing is going to happen with our current form of world society.
People are in such strong denial and/or fear of change, that they are going crazy. The Republicans are just SO bummed out about losing the last series of elections at every level that they just want to have a temper tantrum about everything. The Democrats are hoping that they can keep everything from crashing down for a while longer. No one really wants to change anything. The wealthy don't give a shit who's in charge - they own them both. You WILL pay, rest assured.
Until we get a French style revolution, where the fuckers loose their heads, nothing really will change. I'm not really looking forward to that, but living with this broken mess sucks, too. Time to smash it!
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Author Profile Page Consultant | September 14, 2009 11:47 AM | Reply
Some of the posters here are blogging from prison.
Would you please state your crime, how long you're in for, and how often you have access to the computer.
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Re:Time to smash it!
« Reply #1 on: 2009-09-16 03:21:33 » |
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I think Kunstler is calling it correctly. There are a bunch of factors I am taking into account in saying this. Gold is back at $1000/Oz. China has let slip that it may default on bad derivative contracts. Given that they are holding around $200 Trillion of paper, or about 1/3 of nominal global wealth, that is very serious. The S&P PE is reflecting a 40% to 50% increase in earnings for 2010 which is less likely than Santa Claus leaving every banker a new multimillion dollar bail out bonus this year. The realistic cost (according to Neil Barofsky) of the bonuses to the banks for breaking the economy - excluding interest - is about 23 trillion or 2 to 3 years of US GDP. This simply cannot be repaid before the rising price of oil ends the economy as we know it without ending the US economy. So it won't ever be repaid and China knows it. Which is maybe why they have announced that they have been buying gold and are looking to replace the dollar with a basket of metals and currencies. Which will leave most people in the US unable to buy necessities but will bring home.
A crash and burn may be inescapable at this stage, but I still hold hope that somebody somewhere with means will see sense before the revolution. History shows that revolutions are always messy and invariably cost far more than people estimate and vastly more than any alternatives.
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