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Afghanistan People & Arms - Video
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[Fritz]This is emailing about the net and gives a view we don't normally get of the region.
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Video: VBS Afghanistan
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Re:Afghanistan People & Arms - Video
« Reply #1 on: 2009-02-14 18:47:25 » |
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This film shows only the soft civilized people who live in the valleys, where life is comfortable and easy. Even so, Americans do not go there, not even the astonishingly competent Pakistan Army dares spend much time there no matter how well supported.
Which is why the Russians, with a short supply line and effectively unlimited resources lost 15,000 well trained, well supplied troops in Afghanistan and expended a train car of materiel for every American sponsored "terrorist" killed. Which is why the idea of invading Afghanistan was insane before it started, but I suppose American leadership needed to learn the limits of power for themselves.
Now that we know that it takes two train loads of supplies, 85% of one being stolen in Pakistan before it arrives, for US aligned forces to cause one claimed death, probably of somebody uninvolved, it takes positively American levels of stupidity to imagine that putting people more loaded down than Teutonic knights into that mountain arena suited only for goats, to stand up against some 42 million people who can't even talk to one another and who have dwelt and fought there for centuries, will achieve anything other than more casualties.
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Re:Afghanistan People & Arms - Video
« Reply #2 on: 2009-05-06 08:21:21 » |
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US ‘Investigates’ Reports of Massive Civilian Toll in Afghanistan
Provincial Officials Suggest Scores Killed in Attack
[ Hermit : Having confused a tribe, the Pashtun, with the Taliban, and having been persuaded to assume the position in Afghanistan, Obama's war continues on much the same lines as Bush's... winning friends and making converts for the USA. Or not.]
Source: Antiwar.com
Authors: Jason Ditz
Dated: 2009-05-05
The US military says it is investigating the reports of Afghan officials of a massive number of civilians killed in an air strike in the Farah Province. Provincial officials say they believe around 70 civilians were killed when the US attacked the homes they were hiding in, and one district official earlier today said the final toll could be more than 100. The provincial council is asking village residents to take video and photos of the area to provide evidence of the strike.
The timing of the incident couldn’t be worse, with Afghan President Hamid Karzai arriving in the US today for a summit aimed in part at improving the strained relations between the two nations. Tensions between Karzai and the international forces have been growing chiefly as a result of Karzai’s criticism of previous civilian killings.
While the death toll in the Farah bombing is far from firm, it seems virtually certainly to be the deadliest single incident of international forces killing Afghan civilians since an August 2008 air strike in neighboring Herat Province killed at least 90.
In that case the US denied the toll and accused survivors of spreading "outrageous Taliban propaganda." It was only months later that they conceded to killing at least some civilians, and even then insisted the killings were "legitimate self-defense." Currently, the US policy seems to be to apologize as quickly as possible and move on, so it is unlikely the toll will remain uncertain for long. [i] [ "Move on" appears to have become the crie du jour in Washington. Of course it is now indisputably the Obama administration becoming engaging in warcrimes in Afghanistan and Pakistan and having taken ownership of these nasty, illegal and unwinnable actions, the massive failure and desperate swing to radicalism will deservedly be ascribed to Obama's account. ] [/url]
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