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virus: RE: virus-digest V10 #256
« on: 2005-12-13 13:39:10 »
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Re:virus: RE: virus-digest V10 #256
« Reply #1 on: 2005-12-16 12:00:16 »
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Quote from: pwhittle@oz.net on 2005-12-13 13:39:10   

Interesting thing, that. Wouldn't it naturally apply to such details as an
individual's address, phone number, or e-mail address? Don't privacy laws as
those being debated in the EU give an individual an exclusive "coypright" to
their own personally identifiable data?

To own something means to control the use of the property and (mainly) to assert the right to use coercive force to prevent others from using the property. What does it mean to use an email address? Sending mail to it? Reading mail from it? Selling it? Publishing it?
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Re:virus: RE: virus-digest V10 #256
« Reply #2 on: 2005-12-16 15:18:23 »
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Two contexts. The historic and the present.

When Jefferson wrote this,  the idea of copyright was relatively new, rather narrow (in that it was limited to authors and inventors for useful arts), and given the Constitutional meaning of the time, "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;", which is how Jefferson would presumably have understood it, so copyright could not possibly have been applicable - although the Constitutionally protected right to privacy (Amendment IV) which seems to be the latest clause to be [url=http://www.churchofvirus.org/bbs/index.php?board=65;action=display;threadid=34197]relegated to the ash-heap possibly would have applied had the information had been "private".

But a "private" address is of course, not terribly helpful. Addresses have to be published (although the publication could be constrained to a very small group) to be usable - which takes us right back to the control of published information - or copyright.  Looking at addresses as they are usually understood (including the mentioned variants) in the light of copyright in the modern overwhelmingly inclusive sense, I just don't think that there is sufficient "creativity" vested in individual addresses (although there might be in an addressing system, and definitely can be in a directory or even a database of addresses) for them to fall under the terms of the treaties dealing with copyright. So while "privacy laws", etc. may control how addresses are used, I doubt that any rights pertaining to addresses, are devolved from copyright law, let alone susceptible to successful public or private prosecution.

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