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RE: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
« on: 2005-02-21 03:22:12 »		 Reply with quote
[Blunderov] Much to my regret...

http://www.axcessnews.com/national_022105b.shtml

Hunter Thompson Commits Suicide

by Alan Fein

Hunter S. Thompson, 67, committed suicide Sunday night in Aspen Home,
according to police reports.

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Feb 21, 2005 (AXcess News) Denver - Hunter S. Thompson, 67, committed
suicide Sunday night in Aspen Home, according to police reports.

The famous author, best known for his book, "Fear and Loathing in Las
Vegas", killed himself from an apparent gun shot wound, according to a
Pitkin County Sheriff's Office spokesperson.

"We do have confirmation that Hunter Thompson was found dead this
evening of an apparent self-inflicted wound," the sheriff's spokesperson
said.

Juan Thompson, Hunter's son, found his father's body. Thompson's wife,
Anita, was not home at the time.

In a statement released to the Aspen Daily News, Hunter's son asked the
media to respect his family's privacy during this time of grief. He said
his father was a private man and would prefer people respect the
family's wishes.

Hunter Thompson was credited with writing "Generation of Swine" and
"Songs of the Doomed."

He was an icon of journalism, having always felt that a writer should
make himself a part of the story. He called it "gonzo journalism."




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RE: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
« Reply #1 on: 2005-02-24 07:32:58 »		 Reply with quote
[Blunderov] A .45 slug fired into the cranium at close proximity is
going to make a very ugly mess indeed. Burrowing and tumbling like a
demented high speed weasel the massive slug is a man stopper pure and
simple. Blueprinted in the twisted philosophies of terrible men, the
relatively low 850 foot-pounds per second projectile will propel an
almost languid destruction into whatever gets in its way. This is not a
weapon for Dirty Harry hand-cannon auto-ejaculators who dream of
multiple penetrations during every waking moment; no, this is a weapon
that knows what it is doing and a bullet that loves its work.

Almost nobody was surprised when the news came through. In myriad acts
of instant hindsight we always knew this would happen.  How else was
this man to answer the hubris the always enters without knocking,
bearing the message that always comes too late? He said that he had
never expected to live as long as he had and it was a surprise to us
too. No, the real mystery is how a brain deliberately and systematically
ravaged by both politics and the most evil drugs obtainable on a wicked
planet still retained sufficient grasp to recognize that moment when it
came. That moment when it was no longer possible to outrun run the fact
of what he had become; old and helpless.

Anyone who has ever spends any time with the deeply decrepit will soon
come to notice the almost cordite tang of resentment and ill-temper that
permeates the vacuous cooings of oblivious nurses, condescending
relatives and those bastard, hustling Christian scavengers. The aged
definitely lack any sense of humour whatsoever about their pathetic
situations and rightly. They know they are living in granny-flats
hastily erected at the arse-ends of their personal histories using the
cheapest possible materials and they don't like it at all; but the worst
of their incontinences must surely spring from the knowledge that once
it had been within their power to prevent it.   

Yes, in myriad acts of instant hindsight we always knew it would end
this way, that he would put the full stop to his dream of the great
American novel with an American hand and an American gun. "No whining"
he might have said in a final note. "No whining and no drooling - these
are the rules you must know if you wish to die the American dream." 


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Re: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
« Reply #2 on: 2005-02-24 13:53:20 »		 Reply with quote
Nice writing, Blunderov. Very nice.



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>[Blunderov] A .45 slug fired into the cranium at close proximity is
>going to make a very ugly mess indeed. Burrowing and tumbling like a
>demented high speed weasel the massive slug is a man stopper pure and
>simple. Blueprinted in the twisted philosophies of terrible men, the
>relatively low 850 foot-pounds per second projectile will propel an
>almost languid destruction into whatever gets in its way. This is not a
>weapon for Dirty Harry hand-cannon auto-ejaculators who dream of
>multiple penetrations during every waking moment; no, this is a weapon
>that knows what it is doing and a bullet that loves its work.
>
>Almost nobody was surprised when the news came through. In myriad acts
>of instant hindsight we always knew this would happen.  How else was
>this man to answer the hubris the always enters without knocking,
>bearing the message that always comes too late? He said that he had
>never expected to live as long as he had and it was a surprise to us
>too. No, the real mystery is how a brain deliberately and systematically
>ravaged by both politics and the most evil drugs obtainable on a wicked
>planet still retained sufficient grasp to recognize that moment when it
>came. That moment when it was no longer possible to outrun run the fact
>of what he had become; old and helpless.
>
>Anyone who has ever spends any time with the deeply decrepit will soon
>come to notice the almost cordite tang of resentment and ill-temper that
>permeates the vacuous cooings of oblivious nurses, condescending
>relatives and those bastard, hustling Christian scavengers. The aged
>definitely lack any sense of humour whatsoever about their pathetic
>situations and rightly. They know they are living in granny-flats
>hastily erected at the arse-ends of their personal histories using the
>cheapest possible materials and they don't like it at all; but the worst
>of their incontinences must surely spring from the knowledge that once
>it had been within their power to prevent it.   
>
>Yes, in myriad acts of instant hindsight we always knew it would end
>this way, that he would put the full stop to his dream of the great
>American novel with an American hand and an American gun. "No whining"
>he might have said in a final note. "No whining and no drooling - these
>are the rules you must know if you wish to die the American dream." 
>
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« Reply #4 on: 2005-02-24 17:48:38 »		 Reply with quote
Well written indeed.
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RE: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
« Reply #5 on: 2005-02-24 21:21:13 »		 Reply with quote
Lucifer.

Why is ANYONE in this thread below some arbitrary threshold to post?

I mean I understand the non-Meridion participation, but is this helping us?


Just Wondering,

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RE: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
« Reply #6 on: 2005-02-25 00:05:20 »		 Reply with quote

Quote from: Walter Watts on 2005-02-24 21:21:13   

Lucifer.

Why is ANYONE in this thread below some arbitrary threshold to post?

I mean I understand the non-Meridion participation, but is this helping us?

Yes, I think it provides a good reason to join Meridion. Thanks for pointing that out, WW.
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RE: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
« Reply #8 on: 2005-02-25 01:35:40 »		 Reply with quote
[Blunderov] Thanks to both WW and Gerard van Schip for your kind
remarks. I enjoyed writing the piece and your favorable comments were
most gratifying.
Subsequently this news report came through:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20050224-1412-wst-thompson-dea
th.html

Son says Hunter Thompson may have just decided it was time
By Dan Elliott
ASSOCIATED PRESS
2:12 p.m. February 24, 2005

DENVER - The question won't go away, and Juan Thompson paused to give it
some thought: Why would his father, legendary journalist Hunter S.
Thompson, take his own life? Was it his declining health?

"I don't think so," Thompson said. "One thing that he said many times
was that, 'I'm a road man for the lords of Karma.' It's a cryptic
saying. But there's an implication there that he may have decided that
his work was done and that he didn't want to overstay his welcome; it
was time to go."

The 67-year-old Thompson, author of the "Fear and Loathing" books and
dozens of articles on everything from shark hunting to President Bush,
shot himself in the head Sunday in his Aspen-area home. His son,
daughter-in-law and 6-year-old grandson William were there, but the
adults thought a book had fallen on the kitchen floor and didn't give it
much thought at first.

In a far-ranging interview with The Associated Press, Juan Thompson
recalled what it was like growing up with a dad with an international
image as a drug-crazed, gun-loving crank. But he also offered loving
memories of a man he came to know as a patriotic idealist, a
sometimes-gentle patriarch who could pull heartstrings with praise and
win over little William with a grandfatherly wager the boy was
guaranteed to win.

To Juan Thompson, the suicide was his father's final expression of an
iron will to control his own destiny. Drugs played no role.

"He'd gotten a good night's sleep, he was calm, he was relaxed, he was
quite clear," he said. "He believed very much in controlling events
rather than being controlled by them. I would hope that people see it in
that light: That we'll never know why he chose this time, but that he
had a good reason, and that it was completely consistent with his life,
rather than an act of despair."

Thompson, a 40-year-old computer manager for a Denver restaurant
company, said growing up with his famously outrageous father in the
hamlet of Woody Creek never struck him as weird.

"I had nothing to compare it to," he said.

It's hard to say how much his father's life differed from the mescaline-
and whiskey-crazed "Dr. Thompson" narrator of his famous books. Some
friends have suggested it was an image Thompson ended up with - and
perhaps couldn't part with.

"Part of his art was blending fact and exaggeration in so carefully that
you couldn't really tell what was true and what was not true," the
younger Thompson said. "And he was a very complex, complex man of many,
many facets. Many facets he kept hidden from the public."

The younger Thompson said he doubts anyone saw every facet.

"I'm sure that for the rest of my life, I'm going to be hearing stories
about things that he did that will shock me," he said, laughing. "And
I'll say, 'You're kidding! He did that?'"

He sidestepped a question about whether his father's drug use lived up
to the public perception. "Refer to his writings and use your best
judgment," he said with a chuckle.

As he grew up, Juan Thompson grew to respect and admire his father's
writing and his ideals.

"I just feel so proud. It's really neat, going and reading something,"
he said. "And I think, 'Wow that's my dad.'"

He considers his father "a patriot in the truest sense of the word,"
someone who believed deeply in civil rights and democracy but was
appalled by the nation's failure to live up to its ideals.

"Part of the power of his writing is his disgust with the gap between
the ideal and the reality of our society and our government," his son
said.

That puts him more in line with Mark Twain than with Ernest Hemingway,
the American writer whom Thompson was frequently compared with even
before the suicide.

"Twain used humor heavily, satire. But Twain was a serious idealist
about our country and what it could be. And about truth. Twain was such
a stickler for getting down to the truth," the son said.

Juan Thompson, his wife, Jennifer, and Will all spent last weekend at
his father's house, talking, watching sports on television and relaxing.
On Saturday, the elder Thompson bet Will on a college basketball game.
Will won. "They were generous terms, though," Juan Thompson said,
chuckling. "He gave Will something like 30 points, so he couldn't
possibly lose."

Looking back on the hours before he discovered his father dead in the
kitchen, Thompson said he saw no hints of what he was about to do. Their
last conversation, like so many others, was about one of the writer's
business dealings. There was no suicide note.

Juan Thompson, an avid reader who has never written professionally, also
recalled an event honoring his father in his hometown of Louisville, Ky.
Many writers read tributes and Juan read one of his own.

"He said something like, 'Don't kid yourself, some of that magic I
passed on,'" he said. "And from him - he was such a craftsman with
language, he took writing very seriously and held himself to a very high
standard - and for him to say that, it meant a lot."




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RE: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
« Reply #9 on: 2005-02-25 02:00:25 »		 Reply with quote
[Blunderov] I seem to be causing an unintended mix-up on the BBS. There
is a doppelganger "Blunderov" (neophyte) emanating from
blunderov1@sentechsa.com which was the original e-mail address that
Sentech assigned me. Subsequently Sentech, without informing me either
pre or post, decided that the "1" was redundant and they Bobitted it.
This was good in the sense that the new version (sans 1) was in any case
the address I had originally requested, but the upshot of it all was
that, in my ignorance, I kept giving people a non-existent address.

I edited my Virus information to reflect the change once I finally
became aware of it but it seems that the BBS software still remembers
the first address as being a valid address and has quite reasonably
decided that this must be a different, newer (and quite possibly
improved) "Blunderov". Nobody, after all, can be in two places at the
same time.

I apologise for all this. What to do?
Best Regards.

   

 

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[quote from: Walter on 2005-02-24 at 19:21:13]
Lucifer.

Why is ANYONE in this thread below some arbitrary threshold to post?

I mean I understand the non-Meridion participation, but is this helping
us?


Yes, I think it provides a good reason to join Meridion. Thanks for
pointing that out, WW.

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RE: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
« Reply #10 on: 2005-02-25 07:14:49 »		 Reply with quote
I must confess to being singularly unmoved by Hunter's death. I understand the loss to American culture and writing, and I feel for his family and fans, but...

I tried reading "Fear & Loathing..." many years ago and I just did not appreciate it. Admittedly, I have never read anything else of his however. I do not (& never did) do drugs, (alcohol most definitely excepted) and so anything (books, movies, etc.) which have heavy drug use at their heart tends to just go over my head, unless something at the heart of it resonates with me. I guess I pretty much filed Hunter S. Thompson away with Cheech & Chong and effectively forgot about him.

There have certainly been other authors, whose works revolved around heavy drug-use which did move me as H. S. Thompson never did; Robert Anton Wilson and William Burroughs come to mind. And there certainly have been many movies which gripped me ("Drugstore Cowboy" & "Requiem for a Dream" for eg.) as the adaptation of "Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas" simply did not.

I will down a shot for him though, he lived life on his own terms and contributed his voice to many (many!) peoples' lives. He ended his life on his own terms as well. I don't respect suicide, but I can occasionally find a strange nobility in it. When my twilight years are creeping up and if my mind-upload isn't in sight, as my mind & body decays I just might start to finger the trigger of my shotgun reflectively.
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RE: virus: Hunter Thompson suicide
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I have also never taken drugs but the movie Fear and Loathing... happens to be a favorite of mine. Did you like Gilliam's other films? Brazil for example?
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