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More on why the US is the worst place in the industrial world to raise children
« on: 2007-04-03 21:56:33 » |
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Authorities: Fifth-graders posted lookout, had sex in class
[Hermit: The headline has nothing whatsoever to do with what the children did, but tather with how the Neanderthal authorities reacted.]
Source: CNN
Authors: Not Attributed (AP)
Dated: 2007-04-03
Dateline: New Orleans, Louisiana (AP)
Five fifth-grade students face criminal charges after authorities said four of them had sex in front of other students in an unsupervised classroom and kept a classmate posted as a lookout for teachers.
The students were arrested Tuesday at the Spearsville school in rural north Louisiana, authorities said. Two 11-year-old girls, a 12-year-old boy and a 13-year old boy were charged with obscenity, a felony. An 11-year-old boy, the alleged lookout, was charged with being an accessory.
"After 44 years of doing this work, nothing shocks me anymore," said Union Parish Sheriff Bob Buckley. "But this comes pretty close."
Authorities said the incident happened March 27 at the school, which houses students from kindergarten through 12th grade. A high school teacher normally watches the fifth-grade class at the time, but went to an assembly for older students and the class was inadvertently left unattended, Buckley said. (Watch authorities try to determine if a crime was committed Video)
The class, which had around 10 other students, was alone for about 15 minutes, he said.
"When no teacher showed up, the four began to have sex in the classroom with the other elementary students in the classroom with them," he said.
It took a day for authorities to find out about the incident. A student who had been in the class told a high school student about it the next day, Buckley said. The student told a teacher, and school officials notified the sheriff's office. Detectives began questioning students Thursday.
School officials did not return calls seeking comment.
The students, who were not identified because of their age, were released to their parents after their arrests, Buckley said. They will next be arraigned in juvenile court.
A message seeking comment from the district attorney was not immediately returned.
Buckley said it was unclear what penalties the children could face. [Hermit: So why were they arrested?]
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Re:More on why the US is the worst place in the industrial world to raise childr
« Reply #1 on: 2007-04-14 11:52:06 » |
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Quote from: Hermit on 2007-04-03 21:56:33
Buckley said it was unclear what penalties the children could face. [Hermit: So why were they arrested?]
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Hmm,
You may or may not know that public indecency is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment. So there is kind of a legal precedence there.
As for it being kids...
Well, you know, parking the pink cadillac in third-period Social Studies is not exactly tolerable social behavior and that is something of what law enforcement is all about.
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Re:More on why the US is the worst place in the industrial world to raise childr
« Reply #2 on: 2007-04-17 14:52:04 » |
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In most of the world, children and their activities are not regulated by law enforcement. There are good reasons for this. Not just human rights although they are important, (The US is in the proud company of Zimbabwe in having not signed the Declaration on Child Rights), not just because early involvement with law enforcement closes many avenues for children later in life (and this is also important), but because law enforcemnt doesn't have the training, the mindset, the personalities, the facilities or the budgets to deal with children effectively (although of course law enforcement does have an ever increasing share of all US government spending to the great detriment of health, education and other social programs).
In New Orleans where the cops are thugs, and "minorities" are everywhere - and effectively without rights no matter what the rules say - this is another terrifying example of massive social disfunction.
When a 12 year old acts perfectly naturally, but in a way which puts him in opposition to the society in which he finds himself which wants to pretend that children are not intensely sexual creatures, counseling and condoms are called for, not thugs with guns and handcuffs followed up by a brutal injustice system and potential jailtime.
The fact that you cannot comprehend this Bass, speaks volumes to deficits in your education. Consider a program of history and social studies at any competent University - and there are many. It may help you become a somewhat more effective human.
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« Reply #3 on: 2007-04-17 18:41:44 » |
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Hermit.
I understand but, das ist die welt. It has always been that way in the U.S. and childhood mistakes haunt us all. At twelve or ten or thirteen the sort of judgement that is expected is not terribly steep. I don't condemn them...but it still was very irresponsible.
Arraignment in court should not have to be faced by a child, but no child should have made the decisions that these made.
It's not anyone's blame, necessarily. Perhaps the culture, perhaps the parents, but who can know? In the end an example still has to be made and while I don't condone the action taken, it had it's reason as well...
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