Re: virus: admission - OTOH
« on: 2004-11-26 04:46:07 »
Dear Sebby,
After several sessions of discussing this in IRC, I have come to this bitter realization. I gave you bad advice, or at least I left out the most important advice. See several people have been arguing that 80% is okay, indeed above average, so who are you to complain? And this finally forced me into the stark reality of the situation. Yeah, 80% is fine depending on what that was 80% of. . . . some have urged that BJ's are "fleeting", or "ephemeral" compared to your lofty thoughts and now I find myself possessed of this pro-BJ argument. Yes BJ's certainly are ephemeral, but they are still in the category of "sex" no matter what Bill Clinton may have argued otherwise at some ephemeral moment, and sex is always a deal-maker/breaker. So I think that if 80% simply means you don't get all the mental BS that you seek, you can probably live with it, but if 80% means that you don't get X number of blowjobs necessary for your sexual satisfaction then it is absolutely unforgivable. You can give her a few days to figure it out, but if not, then change women ASAP!! I bet you won't even care about the philosophical bullshit anymore once she complies with your sexual needs like that, and even if you do, you can at least solve the rest of that problem a little more leisurly.
Dr seb - did you enroll in a class together? It really is the best way of figuring this stuff out (and it's usually fun either way) --- To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l>
...i think this speaks to the heart of the subject; when i engage myself in intellectual endeavors with my gal, there is no other way to put it other than, she can't keep up at all. this is not to say i am some super-genious beyond the capacity of a typical human intellect...but the fact remains that whatever we do together, she and i find entirely different things interesting. she tends to focus on things i have absolutely no interest in, such as (what i consider) superficial nicities of our surroundings and so forth. it is difficult to say this without coming off as insulting to her...but: when i'm speaking with her, i feel more as if i am speaking TO her...lecturing and/or teaching. this is fun for a time, but when time and time again i mention common elements of modern history, and she has no idea what i am talking about, it becomes a lonely exercise. furthermore, when i explain the novelty to her, she doesnt seem to understand much or pose the expected questions or make the expected conclusions. in the end, if i want some mental stimulation as opposed to mental frustration from explaining the same thing several times, i end up on the computer...which really doesnt seem very healthy to me. thankyou for not being too severe with your criticism as others have been here.
DrSebby. "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows---- From: "Erik Aronesty" <erik@zoneedit.com> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com To: "Church of Virus" <virus@lucifer.com> Subject: Re: virus: admission - OTOH Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:52:38 +0000 GMT
Dr seb - did you enroll in a class together? It really is the best way of figuring this stuff out (and it's usually fun either way) --- To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l>
Sebby, if you think there will be one person who is everything you'll ever need, you're falling for a romantic myth which was invented by medeival troubadors. It sounds like there are some wonderful things about being with this woman. Just enjoy that! Get your intellectual conversation elsewhere. If it has to be with a woman, then find an intellectual woman and just have intellectual conversations with her. If your girlfriend is only good for having sex, then keep having sex with her. If you meet a third woman who is a good cook, try to get invited over for dinner a lot. Different people, different relationships. The pressure to be the be-all-and-end-all in all of your needs is an unrealistic reason to end a relationship completely. What's so bad about this plan? Can you explain it to me?
He believed in a door. The door was the way to... to... The Door was The Way. Good. Capital letters were always the best way of dealing with things you didn't have a good answer to.
Expensive in this country. But a good plan if you have the time and cash to keep three or four women happy. Sounds like fun to me. Maybe I should give that one a try. Again.
Happy Thanksgiving - to All who still put up with me. And to the ones that don't too. Bill MacKinnon
On Nov 27, 2004, at 2:11 PM, Matt_Arnold wrote:
> > Sebby, if you think there will be one person who is everything you'll > ever need, you're falling for a romantic myth which was invented by > medeival troubadors. It sounds like there are some wonderful things > about being with this woman. Just enjoy that! Get your intellectual > conversation elsewhere. If it has to be with a woman, then find an > intellectual woman and just have intellectual conversations with her. > If your girlfriend is only good for having sex, then keep having sex > with her. If you meet a third woman who is a good cook, try to get > invited over for dinner a lot. Different people, different > relationships. The pressure to be the be-all-and-end-all in all of > your needs is an unrealistic reason to end a relationship completely. > What's so bad about this plan? Can you explain it to me? > > ---- > This message was posted by Matt_Arnold to the Virus 2004 board on > Church of Virus BBS. > <http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=61;action=display; > threadid=31084> > --- > To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to > <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l> >
As long as we're all arguing various pros and cons in this dilemna of the ages, I thought I'd throw this in from "It's A Wonderful Life" which is making the silly season rounds again.....
"I want my baby to look like you!"
George's words come back to haunt him in his memory, as he enters his bedroom where Mary is sleeping. He glances at Mary's needlepoint creation that hangs on the wall of their bedroom, and is once again flooded with intense memories of his failed, imaginative bravado. Shameful and full of self-reproach, he feels dismayed that he has never been able to take Mary traveling for adventure and romance like he had always promised. He had wanted to leave his small hometown and see the world, but instead presides over his family-owned building and loan, always struggling with his nose to the grindstone and never seeming to get ahead. He wonders why Mary has remained so loyal to him. She surprises him by hinting: "I want my baby to look like you!" Comically, she uses the metaphor of the needlepoint and announces that she is "on the nest" (pregnant and soon to 'Hatch' their first child) and that "George Bailey lassos Stork!"
As reasons for relationships go, that's not a completely irrelavant one.
...i guess what im saying bill is that of all the things i can do without or less of, intellectual stimulation is NOT one of them. the sad thing is that so many of the other parts are there.
Expensive in this country. But a good plan if you have the time and cash to keep three or four women happy. Sounds like fun to me. Maybe I should give that one a try. Again.
Happy Thanksgiving - to All who still put up with me. And to the ones that don't too. Bill MacKinnon
On Nov 27, 2004, at 2:11 PM, Matt_Arnold wrote:
> >Sebby, if you think there will be one person who is everything you'll ever >need, you're falling for a romantic myth which was invented by medeival >troubadors. It sounds like there are some wonderful things about being >with this woman. Just enjoy that! Get your intellectual conversation >elsewhere. If it has to be with a woman, then find an intellectual woman >and just have intellectual conversations with her. If your girlfriend is >only good for having sex, then keep having sex with her. If you meet a >third woman who is a good cook, try to get invited over for dinner a lot. >Different people, different relationships. The pressure to be the >be-all-and-end-all in all of your needs is an unrealistic reason to end a >relationship completely. What's so bad about this plan? Can you explain it >to me? > >---- >This message was posted by Matt_Arnold to the Virus 2004 board on Church >of Virus BBS. ><http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=61;action=display; >threadid=31084> >--- >To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to ><http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l> >
...that is a perfect plan Matt. i have had this in the past and it was ideal. but...my g/f now seems to have zero interest in going out/staying in with friends or any sort of socializing for the most part. i really dont understand it...she is perfectly happy just staying in and doing simple, boring activities with me and me alone. this sounds good on the surface, but it clearly is not. i sometimes feel as if she's waiting for me before taking any initiative...i react badly to this sort of pressure. i just get the feeling that nothing really interests her. ive even asked her this very question and her reply is something like, "nothing, really". i dont know what to say to this.
Sebby, if you think there will be one person who is everything you'll ever need, you're falling for a romantic myth which was invented by medeival troubadors. It sounds like there are some wonderful things about being with this woman. Just enjoy that! Get your intellectual conversation elsewhere. If it has to be with a woman, then find an intellectual woman and just have intellectual conversations with her. If your girlfriend is only good for having sex, then keep having sex with her. If you meet a third woman who is a good cook, try to get invited over for dinner a lot. Different people, different relationships. The pressure to be the be-all-and-end-all in all of your needs is an unrealistic reason to end a relationship completely. What's so bad about this plan? Can you explain it to me?
...actually, the sex side of things is fine...i dont mean to sound overly profound, but there really is no substitute for engaging conversation. i dont need a super-genius here, just something to work with...or more to the point, some effort on her part. 85% of my comments to her acheive a one-word answer like "huh" or "oh". then a follow up on some immensely quotidien topic totally off-topic and painfully uninteresting to me, like; "this person that i know knows this other person that i know" etc...
PS. and I rarely say "always" so listen up, young man!
----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Sapiens To: virus@lucifer.com Sent: 11/26/2004 1:46:04 AM Subject: Re: virus: admission - OTOH
Dear Sebby,
After several sessions of discussing this in IRC, I have come to this bitter realization. I gave you bad advice, or at least I left out the most important advice. See several people have been arguing that 80% is okay, indeed above average, so who are you to complain? And this finally forced me into the stark reality of the situation. Yeah, 80% is fine depending on what that was 80% of. . . . some have urged that BJ's are "fleeting", or "ephemeral" compared to your lofty thoughts and now I find myself possessed of this pro-BJ argument. Yes BJ's certainly are ephemeral, but they are still in the category of "sex" no matter what Bill Clinton may have argued otherwise at some ephemeral moment, and sex is always a deal-maker/breaker. So I think that if 80% simply means you don't get all the mental BS that you seek, you can probably live with it, but if 80% means that you don't get X number of blowjobs necessary for your sexual satisfaction then it is absolutely unforgivable! . You can give her a few days to figure it out, but if not, then change women ASAP!! I bet you won't even care about the philosophical bullshit anymore once she complies with your sexual needs like that, and even if you do, you can at least solve the rest of that problem a little more leisurly.
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