RE: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
« on: 2004-07-16 03:35:18 »
[Blunderov] Illustrious comrades and respected custodians of the glorious revolution; as predicted by Scientific Socialism, and husbanded by our glorious Teacher and Leader, we now see how the phoenix memes of the supposedly vanquished USSR have triumphed over the moral syphilis of the decadent West. The rabid running dogs of worker oppression won every battle and lost the war! Aluta continua!
Scientists Must Ask Permission to Consult with WHO There's a new development in the continuing saga of the Bush administration's efforts to politicize science and warp scientific research to make it compatible with their political agenda: American scientists must seek permission from political appointees before lending scientific expertise to the UN's World Health Organization.
MSNBC reports:
William Steiger, a special assistant to Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson, said in an April letter that WHO can no longer pick specific government experts to serve as consultants. The practice, which has been in place during several administrations, "has not always resulted in the most appropriate selections," Steiger said. Instead, Steiger's Office of Global Health Affairs now will choose "an appropriate expert who can best serve both of our organizations," he said. HHS experts made available also must advocate U.S. government policies, Steiger said. I think it's clear that when Steiger (who is George H.W. Bush's godson) says "appropriate selections," he doesn't mean that WHO has failed to pick the most qualified people in their fields. Instead, they failed to pick people considered by the government as "politically reliable." Is there anyone who doubts that political reliability will be treated as more important than scientific expertise? If the government is forced to choose between someone who is best in their field but doesn't always agree with government policies and someone who isn't best in the field but who can always be counted on to defend what the government wants, who will be chosen? The current administration already has a history of the latter.
Bill Pierce, Thompson's spokesman, said Waxman has it wrong. "It's in no way politicized," Pierce said. "This is a policy to make sure the WHO has the very best the federal government has to offer when it comes to our experts."
Right. The policy is to make sure that WHO gets the best government experts, but "best" here includes "advocates U.S. government policies." Instead of representing scientific accuracy and sound research, those who are hand-picked by the political office must represent U.S. interests "at all times." The implication is simply that "best" is meant in a scientific sense, but that's misleading. Deliberately misleading, perhaps?
I wonder if this change has anything to do with the fact that WHO has linked sugar to obesity... and the sugar industry is a big supporter of the Bush administration:
In January, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) sent a letter to the World Health Organization with dozens of objections to the scientific findings that underlie the WHO's effort to issue anti-obesity guidelines. Only eight months earlier, U.S. sugar manufacturers and other food industry groups had called for "the personal intervention" of HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson and urged him to challenge the WHO's scientific findings about obesity-most notably a dietary recommendation to limit consumption of sugar. ... The letter goes on to criticize the WHO scientific report's "linking of fruit and vegetable consumption to decreased risk of obesity," along with many of its other scientific findings In April 2003, after this report was released, the Sugar Association and the Corn Refiners Association (which makes high-fructose corn syrup, the leading soft-drink sweetener) mobilized to have the findings revised. Not only did they call on HHS to take action, but the Sugar Association also wrote to the WHO threatening to have its allies in Congress eliminate the organization's U.S. funding if the WHO didn't rethink its anti-obesity work. All of this should be disturbing to anyone who values science, but it shouldn't be at all shocking to anyone who has paid much attention to how the current administration has treated science. It's not unlike how creationists treat science: it's warped and twisted to fit a religious agenda such that, in the end, it looks a bit like science to those who don't know any better but is no longer real science as practiced by real scientists. </q>
Re: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
« Reply #1 on: 2004-07-16 10:53:47 »
The fiscal irresponsibility was the fisrt sign that Bush was seeking to undermine capitalism. This is just one in a long line of measures, like the Patriot Act, that indicate Bush's communist leanings.
-----Original Message----- From: "Blunderov" <squooker@mweb.co.za> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:35:18 To:<virus@lucifer.com> Subject: RE: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
[Blunderov] Illustrious comrades and respected custodians of the glorious revolution; as predicted by Scientific Socialism, and husbanded by our glorious Teacher and Leader, we now see how the phoenix memes of the supposedly vanquished USSR have triumphed over the moral syphilis of the decadent West. The rabid running dogs of worker oppression won every battle and lost the war! Aluta continua!
Scientists Must Ask Permission to Consult with WHO There's a new development in the continuing saga of the Bush administration's efforts to politicize science and warp scientific research to make it compatible with their political agenda: American scientists must seek permission from political appointees before lending scientific expertise to the UN's World Health Organization.
MSNBC reports:
William Steiger, a special assistant to Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson, said in an April letter that WHO can no longer pick specific government experts to serve as consultants. The practice, which has been in place during several administrations, "has not always resulted in the most appropriate selections," Steiger said. Instead, Steiger's Office of Global Health Affairs now will choose "an appropriate expert who can best serve both of our organizations," he said. HHS experts made available also must advocate U.S. government policies, Steiger said. I think it's clear that when Steiger (who is George H.W. Bush's godson) says "appropriate selections," he doesn't mean that WHO has failed to pick the most qualified people in their fields. Instead, they failed to pick people considered by the government as "politically reliable." Is there anyone who doubts that political reliability will be treated as more important than scientific expertise? If the government is forced to choose between someone who is best in their field but doesn't always agree with government policies and someone who isn't best in the field but who can always be counted on to defend what the government wants, who will be chosen? The current administration already has a history of the latter.
Bill Pierce, Thompson's spokesman, said Waxman has it wrong. "It's in no way politicized," Pierce said. "This is a policy to make sure the WHO has the very best the federal government has to offer when it comes to our experts."
Right. The policy is to make sure that WHO gets the best government experts, but "best" here includes "advocates U.S. government policies." Instead of representing scientific accuracy and sound research, those who are hand-picked by the political office must represent U.S. interests "at all times." The implication is simply that "best" is meant in a scientific sense, but that's misleading. Deliberately misleading, perhaps?
I wonder if this change has anything to do with the fact that WHO has linked sugar to obesity... and the sugar industry is a big supporter of the Bush administration:
In January, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) sent a letter to the World Health Organization with dozens of objections to the scientific findings that underlie the WHO's effort to issue anti-obesity guidelines. Only eight months earlier, U.S. sugar manufacturers and other food industry groups had called for "the personal intervention" of HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson and urged him to challenge the WHO's scientific findings about obesity-most notably a dietary recommendation to limit consumption of sugar. ... The letter goes on to criticize the WHO scientific report's "linking of fruit and vegetable consumption to decreased risk of obesity," along with many of its other scientific findings In April 2003, after this report was released, the Sugar Association and the Corn Refiners Association (which makes high-fructose corn syrup, the leading soft-drink sweetener) mobilized to have the findings revised. Not only did they call on HHS to take action, but the Sugar Association also wrote to the WHO threatening to have its allies in Congress eliminate the organization's U.S. funding if the WHO didn't rethink its anti-obesity work. All of this should be disturbing to anyone who values science, but it shouldn't be at all shocking to anyone who has paid much attention to how the current administration has treated science. It's not unlike how creationists treat science: it's warped and twisted to fit a religious agenda such that, in the end, it looks a bit like science to those who don't know any better but is no longer real science as practiced by real scientists. </q>
RE: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
« Reply #2 on: 2004-07-16 18:05:23 »
Erik Aronesty Sent: 16 July 2004 16:54 <snip> The fiscal irresponsibility was the fisrt sign that Bush was seeking to undermine capitalism. This is just one in a long line of measures, like the Patriot Act, that indicate Bush's communist leanings.</snip>
[Blunderov] Comrade Bush has indeed performed most loyally. But it may be that his Marxist zeal has caused him to blow his cover - even the bloated fat cats of the bourgeois media are beginning to notice that he is not what he seems.(See link below) Soon the order will come for this hero of social democracy to come in from the cold.
A glorious triumph! Can we doubt that the Order of Lenin must surely follow this great achievement?
COMMUNIST BUSH FINALLY GOES TOO FAR By: Alan Stang <snip> For instance, to destroy countries around the world, Soviet dictator Stalin concocted the policy of "self-determination," in which a region could secede from a nation if the people there wanted to. Under this policy, it was good for Algeria to secede from France. It would be good for FARC to secede from Colombia and for Aztlan to secede from the United States.
The District of Conspiracy has always endorsed this Communist policy, except when the secession would oppose Communist goals. Totalitarian monster Abraham Lincoln opposed Southern secession. Washington supported the Communist UN forty years ago, when it killed and burned in the province of Katanga, to prevent anti-Communist President Moise Tshombe from taking it out of the Congo.
And now here comes George W. Bush, who in a recent pronouncement supported Communist China's perennial scheme to invade and conquer Taiwan. Bush went out of his way to endorse the Communist "one China" policy. Now also here comes the U.S. Supreme Court, upholding "campaign spending reform" as concocted by Senator John McCain (R-Hanoi). </snip>
[Blunderov] You wound me to the quick comrade; 'far better'? Even the most backward workers' tractor collective could not fail to recognize the 'Politburo Diktat' for the CIA/Zionist ploy that it so obviously is.
Very soon now the order for your sadly necessary re-education will come. We must be vigilant comrade!
RE: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
« Reply #5 on: 2004-07-17 04:14:41 »
[Blunderov] Great news comrades! Social progress is being realised in The Soviet Socialist Republics of America even faster than expected. The five year plan will be brought forward! Catch up and surpass!
Two Worlds - One System [Anti-Americanism in Russia] <snip> Accusation of USA of all recent Soviet sins make us to think over in another way both an essence of "anti-American" and our modern history. Russian society has to be aware that communist ideology, one-party system, national property are responsible for Russian totalitarianism as well as American mode of life, freedom, democracy are responsible for the same American totalitarianism. In any case, we have in reality not two different political system but the same authoritarian form of social being. Such processes in Russian society are pregnant with catastrophes like as America's war against terrorism - sign of coming catastrophes of American society. It is not difficult to suppose, that in the nearest future both Russian and American society will encounter the same problems and contradictions, but modes of its resolution, in spite of visual direct opposition, will be the same one. Being extreme embodiment of particular historical epoch, hidden or obvious authoritarianism of our systems will be continuously arising as a crack in our relation. An opposition "two world - two systems" is maintained and reproduced, it will dominate in reality, but this is an especial opposition, such opposition that will give and can give the answers. </snip>
RE: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
« Reply #6 on: 2004-07-18 09:22:14 »
[Blunderov] Comrades, the revolution is gaining ground on all fronts. Reactionary elements are being purged from the collectives and factories where they attempt (of course with no success) to blight the morale of our heroic workers.
Very soon now the cowering bourgeois intelligentsia will be driven like chaff before the tractor too.
Couple Arrested for Anti-Bush T-Shirts Has it become a crime to protest the president and his administration? Has it become illegal to attend a speech by President Bush and express your disagreement with his policies? Apparently it has - at least, that's what a couple in West Virginia experienced. They were removed from the area before his speech for nothing more than wearing T-shirts with the message "Love America, Hate Bush."
The Charleston Gazette explains: The Ranks were ticketed for trespassing and released. They have been given summonses to appear in court, Charleston Police Lt. C.A. Vincent said Wednesday. ... The White House coordinated the president's visit to the state Capitol. Organizers described it as a presidential visit, not a political rally. State and federal funds were used to pay for the presidential visit. Dozens of people who attended Sunday's event wore pro-Bush T-shirts and Bush-Cheney campaign buttons, some of which were sold on the Capitol grounds outside the security screening stations. Nicole Rank works for FEMA and was ordered home to Texas:
FEMA spokesman Ross Fredenburg would not say Wednesday whether Nicole Rank had been fired. "All we can say is that our federal coordinating officer, Lou Botta, sent Nicole home," he said. "We cannot comment further, to protect her privacy. Federal privacy laws prevent us from saying anything." News 8 Austin explains that they had tickets and were put in handcuffs:
Police placed Nicole and Jeffery Rank of Corpus Christi in restraints after they entered the event with a ticket and then removed their clothes to reveal anti-Bush T-shirts, according to the acting director of the Capitol police in Charleston. It has been said that people get the sort of government they deserve, and it's rather sad to think that we deserve a government that handcuffs and removes people from public events paid for with public funds simply because they are expressing a message that is critical of the government - even though people expressing pro-government messages in the exact same way are not only left alone but in fact encouraged in their behavior.
This is viewpoint discrimination. It's illegal. It's unconstitutional. There's no excuse for it and it is a sign of just how morally and legally bankrupt our current government has become that it takes such actions without a second thought. It's also a sign of just how little integrity our media has become that this has received so little news coverage.
Re: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
« Reply #7 on: 2004-07-18 13:49:06 »
It's becoming clearer and clearer that Bush' plan to create a communist state is drawing close to a reality.
He and his royal family have ensured that polling and voting in many regions of the country will not be an obstacle to the revolution.
-----Original Message----- From: "Blunderov" <squooker@mweb.co.za> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:22:14 To:<virus@lucifer.com> Subject: RE: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
[Blunderov] Comrades, the revolution is gaining ground on all fronts. Reactionary elements are being purged from the collectives and factories where they attempt (of course with no success) to blight the morale of our heroic workers.
Very soon now the cowering bourgeois intelligentsia will be driven like chaff before the tractor too.
Couple Arrested for Anti-Bush T-Shirts Has it become a crime to protest the president and his administration? Has it become illegal to attend a speech by President Bush and express your disagreement with his policies? Apparently it has - at least, that's what a couple in West Virginia experienced. They were removed from the area before his speech for nothing more than wearing T-shirts with the message "Love America, Hate Bush."
The Charleston Gazette explains: The Ranks were ticketed for trespassing and released. They have been given summonses to appear in court, Charleston Police Lt. C.A. Vincent said Wednesday. ... The White House coordinated the president's visit to the state Capitol. Organizers described it as a presidential visit, not a political rally. State and federal funds were used to pay for the presidential visit. Dozens of people who attended Sunday's event wore pro-Bush T-shirts and Bush-Cheney campaign buttons, some of which were sold on the Capitol grounds outside the security screening stations. Nicole Rank works for FEMA and was ordered home to Texas:
FEMA spokesman Ross Fredenburg would not say Wednesday whether Nicole Rank had been fired. "All we can say is that our federal coordinating officer, Lou Botta, sent Nicole home," he said. "We cannot comment further, to protect her privacy. Federal privacy laws prevent us from saying anything." News 8 Austin explains that they had tickets and were put in handcuffs:
Police placed Nicole and Jeffery Rank of Corpus Christi in restraints after they entered the event with a ticket and then removed their clothes to reveal anti-Bush T-shirts, according to the acting director of the Capitol police in Charleston. It has been said that people get the sort of government they deserve, and it's rather sad to think that we deserve a government that handcuffs and removes people from public events paid for with public funds simply because they are expressing a message that is critical of the government - even though people expressing pro-government messages in the exact same way are not only left alone but in fact encouraged in their behavior.
This is viewpoint discrimination. It's illegal. It's unconstitutional. There's no excuse for it and it is a sign of just how morally and legally bankrupt our current government has become that it takes such actions without a second thought. It's also a sign of just how little integrity our media has become that this has received so little news coverage.
RE: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
« Reply #10 on: 2004-07-18 16:14:05 »
Erik Aronestovich Sent: 18 July 2004 19:49
It's becoming clearer and clearer that Bush' plan to create a communist state is drawing close to a reality.
He and his royal family have ensured that polling and voting in many regions of the country will not be an obstacle to the revolution.
[Blunderov] Party Discipline demands that comrade Bushov remain with the nomenklatura for the moment - a necessary expedient which will wither away when the victory of the Global Proletariat is complete.
Great progress in Socialist history requires stern sacrifice and comrade Bushov yearns for the day when he may once again, shoulder to shoulder with his fellow workers at the Harvard Mechanics School Club, play chess, eat cabbage and drink beer.
Constant vigilance must be our watchword comrade! Even at this glorious hour there is still scurrilous samizdat being circulated by Zionist dead-enders and their fellow travelers. I have included an example with which you may alert the sensibilities of your local workers' committee apparatus (WORMKOM).
'Let us strengthen the class solidarity and cooperation of all communists of all countries in the struggle for peace and socialism.'
http://www.progress.org/2004/spee04.htm <snip> It looks like Soviet agents can pose as school administrators, and succeed! They are bringing as many Soviet Union rules into the USA as they possibly can. Here are portions of an article from the Salt Lake Tribune of Utah, United States. </snip>
RE: virus: The Sovietization of America (ctd.)
« Reply #11 on: 2004-07-19 07:28:47 »
[Blunderov]Comrades; <snip> March 17) You will be happy to learn that the former head of the KGB (the secret police of the former Soviet Union), General Yevgeni Primakov, has been hired as a consultant by the US Department of Homeland Security. </snip> <snip> You could call this the*** "Sovietization of America."*** Primakov said he can't wait to get on the payroll (he called it the "pay corps," referring to the **HERITAGE FOUNDATION,** the PNAC and all the other right wing foundations in the United States) He can't get over how many ex-KGB generals and colonels still want to come over to the United States and become consultants to get on the pay corps. It has been reported that *** Nikita KRUSHCHEV, Jr.*** works for the Heritage Foundation. Another right wing foundation has Elena STALIN. The Old Soviet Brand names are all coming to Washington to get on the gravy train and teach the Bush administration how to further restrict the rights of the American people. </snip>
I think you may be on to something. How many Tsars are we up to now in the federal government?
Bill MacKinnon "Switching to Vodka"
On Jul 19, 2004, at 7:28 AM, Blunderov wrote:
> [Blunderov]Comrades; > <snip> > March 17) You will be happy to learn that the former head of the KGB > (the secret police of the former Soviet Union), General Yevgeni > Primakov, has been hired as a consultant by the US Department of > Homeland Security. </snip> > <snip> > You could call this the*** "Sovietization of America."*** Primakov said > he can't wait to get on the payroll (he called it the "pay corps," > referring to the **HERITAGE FOUNDATION,** the PNAC and all the > other right wing foundations in the United States) He can't get over > how > many ex-KGB generals and colonels still want to come over to the United > States and become consultants to get on the pay corps. > It has been reported that *** Nikita KRUSHCHEV, Jr.*** works for > the Heritage Foundation. Another right wing foundation has Elena > STALIN. > The Old Soviet Brand names are all coming to Washington to get on the > gravy train and teach the Bush administration how to further restrict > the rights of the American people. </snip> > > http://www.stewwebb.com/ > Nazi%20The%20United%20Soviet%20States%20of%20America > %20by%20Al%20Martin.html > > "All power to soviets! Peace to all nations! Land to peasants! > Factories to > workers!" > > > --- > To unsubscribe from the Virus list go to > <http://www.lucifer.com/cgi-bin/virus-l> >
Sometimes a political figure becomes so hated that he can't do anything right in the eyes of his enemies. President Bush has achieved this rare and exalted status. His critics are so blinded by animus that the internal consistency of their attacks on him no longer matters. For them, Bush is the double-bind president.
If he stumbles over his words, he is an embarrassing idiot. If he manages to cut taxes or wage a war against Saddam Hussein with bipartisan support, he is a manipulative genius.
If he hasn't been able to capture Osama bin Laden, he is endangering U.S. security. If he catches bin Laden, it is only a ploy to influence the elections.
If he ignores U.N. resolutions, he is a dangerous unilateralist. If he takes U.N. resolutions on Iraq seriously, he is a dangerous unilateralist. If he doesn't get France to agree to his Iraq policy, he is ignoring important international actors. If he supports multiparty talks on North Korea, he is not doing enough to ignore important international actors.
If he bombed Iraq, he should have bombed Saudi Arabia instead, and if he had bombed Saudi Arabia, he should have bombed Iran, and if he had bombed all three, he shouldn't have bombed anyone at all. If he imposes a U.S. occupation on Iraq, he is fomenting Iraqi resistance by making the United States seem an imperial power. If he ends the U.S. occupation, he is cutting and running.
If he warns of a terror attack, he is playing alarmist politics. If he doesn't warn of a terror attack, he is dangerously asleep at the switch. If he says we're safer, he's lying, and if he doesn't say we're safer, he's implicitly admitting that he has failed in his core duty as commander in chief.
If he adopts a doctrine of preemption, he is unacceptably remaking American national-security policy. If the United States suffers a terror attack on his watch, he should have preempted it. If he signs a far-reaching antiterror law, he is abridging civil liberties. If the United States suffers another terror attack on his watch, he should have had a more vigorous anti-terror law.
Bush's economy hasn't created new jobs. If it has created new jobs, they aren't well-paying jobs. If they are well-paying jobs, there is still income inequality in America.
If Bush opposes a prescription-drug benefit for the elderly, he's miserly. If he supports a prescription-drug benefit for the elderly, he's lining the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies. If he restrains government spending, he's heartless. If he supports government spending, he's bankrupting the nation and robbing from future generations.
If he opposes campaign-finance reform, he's a tool of corporate interests. If he signs campaign-finance reform, he's abridging the First Amendment rights of Michael Moore (whose ads for Fahrenheit 9/11 might run afoul of the law).
If he accuses John Kerry of flip-flopping, he is merely highlighting one of the Massachusetts senator's strengths ” his nuance and thoughtfulness. If he flip-flops on nation-building or testifying before the 9/11 commission, he proves his own ill-intentions, cluelessness, or both.
If he doesn't admit a mistake, he is bullheaded and detached from reality. If he admits a mistake, he is damning his own governance in shocking fashion.
If he sticks with Dick Cheney, he is saddling himself with an unpopular vice president, giving Democrats who can't wait to run against Cheney a political advantage. If he drops Cheney, he is admitting that the Democratic attacks against his vice president have hit home, thus giving Democrats who have made those charges a political advantage.
If he loses in November, the voice of the American people has spoken a devastating verdict on his presidency. If he wins, he stole the election.
Rich Lowry is author of Legacy: Paying the Price for the Clinton Years.
[Blunderov]Comrade; Party Discipline demands that you deconstruct oppositionist negativism wherever you may encounter it and the People of the Workers Paradise have noted you valiant efforts in this regard.
Never doubt, comrade, that the revisionist upstart Kerry will be resoundingly repudiated by the USSA Party Congress in November. As Marx has said 'In the social production of their existence, men inevitably enter into definite relations which are independent of their will'.
'All the power of our industry for the fulfillment of the food program!'
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