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A Diversion
« on: 2004-05-21 12:36:25 »
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for lack of imagination..here is a question..

if thoughts and actions are 'investments'...what/how will you invest today that will reap rewards to benefit future generations in the long run..possibly after your time...

amuse me, folks...the current topics...a tad depressing for me...
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« Reply #1 on: 2004-05-21 13:27:33 »
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for lack of imagination..here is a question..

if thoughts and actions are 'investments'...what/how will you invest today
that will reap rewards to benefit future generations in the long
run..possibly after your time...

amuse me, folks...the current topics...a tad depressing for me...


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[Blunderov] If I was King of the World, children would study rational
thinking from the moment they went to school.

(Hopefully this would make it much more difficult for politicians to pull
the wool over the eyes of the electorate.)

We teach reading and writing as a matter of course. How is it that we don't
teach thinking?

Perhaps there are places that do this?

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« Reply #2 on: 2004-05-21 20:22:09 »
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: if thoughts and actions are
: 'investments'...what/how will you
: invest today that will reap
: rewards to benefit future
: generations in the long
: run..possibly after your time...

I wrote an article on stem cell research for a magazine with the intention of inspiring people to ratify the 3 billion dollar California petition and support public research.
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First, read Bruce Sterling's "Distraction", and then read http://electionmethods.org.
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« Reply #3 on: 2004-05-22 02:31:09 »
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[Mermaid]

for lack of imagination..here is a question..

if thoughts and actions are 'investments'...what/how will you invest today
that will reap rewards to benefit future generations in the long
run..possibly after your time...

amuse me, folks...the current topics...a tad depressing for me...

[Kalkor]
My trade is about improving quality of life, and teaching people how to do
the same for themselves. It's about nurturing touch, something that has been
proven to be a human NEED, a nutritional requirement. Something we get too
little of these days.

With every step I take in this wondrous direction, I learn a bit more about
how the human body and the human mind really interact on a day-to-day basis.
I learn a bit more about sensorimotor feedback and how essential it is to
the functioning of the organism. I learn a little bit more about the phrase
"feel good" from perspectives I never knew even existed a few short months
ago.

I hope that my voyage of discovery through this body and this world will
allow me to teach people to better understand themselves and others, how to
bring nurturing touch to their own lives and the lives of others, and how to
improve quality of life for a time or for a lifetime.

I think it's a good start. Any thoughts? Feelings?

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« Reply #4 on: 2004-05-22 05:53:03 »
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blunderov, I remember one of dawkins' essays from devil's chaplin where he bemoans the current state of parental affairs where parents force their religious views and dogmas onto their kids...while his concern is valid, if you really think about it...isnt that why parents have kids in the first place...to create miniature versions of themselves in order to pursue the immortality of their genes and memes...dawkins(author of selfish gene even!), of all people..should be able to see why something that seems unfair and cruel to him is absolutely logical from the 'other side'..or rather in the grand scheme of things...is it fair to expect compulsary 'rational'(aka secular/heathen in certain circles) education ..isnt it the equivalent of a religious majority saying that religious education must be made compulsary for all and if they dont want to be saved anyways, its their funeral...will that ever happen? not likely..how can 'rational' education be expected..in britain recently, 'atheism' is going to be made part of 'religious studies'...if it werent so hilarious, it would be fucking pathetic...'atheism as part of religious studies'..get it?

it seems to me that the only way is to create more 'rational' clones...smart people reproducing at a faster rate than the spawning rate of the idiots...that and do something about medicine keeping all the weaklings alive...drastically affecting the chances of the human species evolving or creating another 'daughter species'...trust me...i have given this much thought...since i officially turned into a middle aged woman with a ticking biological clock, i had given myself one year to rationally justify the decision not to procreate..except for my hedonism and utterly graceless manner of living..not to mention the incessant swearing...there is no reason why i cant procreate...fortunately or unfortunately, i am too lazy to change diapers...baby farms or birthing pods....whats your pick?

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« Reply #5 on: 2004-05-22 07:08:38 »
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blunderov, I remember one of dawkins' essays from devil's chaplin where he
bemoans the current state of parental affairs where parents force their
religious views and dogmas onto their kids...while his concern is valid, if
you really think about it...isnt that why parents have kids in the first
place...to create miniature versions of themselves in order to pursue the
immortality of their genes and memes...dawkins(author of selfish gene
even!), of all people..should be able to see why something that seems unfair
and cruel to him is absolutely logical from the 'other side'..or rather in
the grand scheme of things...is it fair to expect compulsary 'rational'(aka
secular/heathen in certain circles) education ..isnt it the equivalent of a
religious majority saying that religious education must be made compulsary
for all and if they dont want to be saved anyways, its their funeral...will
that ever happen? not likely..how can 'rational' education be expected..in
britain recently, '!
atheism' is going to be made part of 'religious studies'...if it werent so
hilarious, it would be fucking pathetic...'atheism as part of religious
studies'..get it?

it seems to me that the only way is to create more 'rational' clones...smart
people reproducing at a faster rate than the spawning rate of the
idiots...that and do something about medicine keeping all the weaklings
alive...drastically affecting the chances of the human species evolving or
creating another 'daughter species'...trust me...i have given this much
thought...since i officially turned into a middle aged woman with a ticking
biological clock, i had given myself one year to rationally justify the
decision not to procreate..except for my hedonism and utterly graceless
manner of living..not to mention the incessant swearing...there is no reason
why i cant procreate...fortunately or unfortunately, i am too lazy to change
diapers...baby farms or birthing pods....whats your pick?
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[Blunderov] True, to many people rational thought is a threat, especially
those with strong religious sensibilities. These people would IMV be
perfectly entitled to create schools of their own to cater to their
convictions. But I don't believe they can reasonably expect a secular state
to connive with them in this regard.

To teach people to reason is not synonymous with teaching them to be
atheists, as is all too sadly evident. The more I think about it, the more I
wonder whether there can be any higher goal than teaching people how to make
sense of their lives; higher even than literacy or numeracy. I admit this
sounds a lot like a religion itself.

With regard to parenthood I have to say that, on the whole, I recommend it.
When my first daughter was born the world became a different place, one that
had acquired a new and joyful meaning. Parenthood is a very visceral
experience.

Of course there are no free lunches; teenagers can be unspeakable - I know,
I was one.

To me, to make a gift of life is to make a gift of the universe. It seems to
me that it would be ungenerous not to pass it on.*

Best Regards

*Within reason






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