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virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
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Here's an idea I think DrSebby might like.....you know, "Courage...and
shuffle the cards".

First, pull all foreign citizens out of Iraq.

Second, tell them, but not really mean it, that if they can't build a
globally peaceable government in say, 3 years, we will nuke Baghdad.

na, na, na, na, na

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RE: virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
« Reply #1 on: 2004-03-18 08:43:34 »
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...your tag line might be the wisest one-liner i've heard in a long long
time.  as for your idea, it wouldnt work since youre dealing with people
operating on a completely different set of values.  a better plan would be
to pay a guys family 1 billion$ if he agrees to walk into bagdad, speaking
the local dialects, claim that he is a messenger from allah, lecture them on
how they are wrong, and how allah disapproves of their interpretations, and
just as he's about to be torn to shreds(should take long enough for the word
to get out of the bomb blast)...have him detonate a small neutron bomb sown
into his gut cavity.

...the better option of course would be to pull out of the entire region,
slowly wean ourselves through technology of their oil (venezuela and texas
etc. still has it) ban anyone EVER having visited one of those countries
from entering the USA(like they do with israel), and put a total
embargo...cultural, economic, etc. on islamic nations or those with
officially recognized populations, and allow police to check
citizenship/visa status for any stop for a period of years...and just forget
about them and their world of crap.  lets face it, their values are
currently too alien to ours to pretend friendship is really an option.  give
them a century and check up on them again.



DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".





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Subject: virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:55:10 -0600

Here's an idea I think DrSebby might like.....you know, "Courage...and
shuffle the cards".

First, pull all foreign citizens out of Iraq.

Second, tell them, but not really mean it, that if they can't build a
globally peaceable government in say, 3 years, we will nuke Baghdad.

na, na, na, na, na

Walter
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« Reply #2 on: 2004-03-18 12:18:11 »
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[DrSebby]
...the better option of course would be to pull out of the entire region, slowly wean ourselves through technology of their oil (venezuela and texas etc. still has it) ban anyone EVER having visited one of those countries from entering the USA(like they do with israel), and put a total embargo...cultural, economic, etc. on islamic nations or those with officially recognized populations, and allow police to check citizenship/visa status for any stop for a period of years...and just forget about them and their world of crap.  lets face it, their values are currently too alien to ours to pretend friendship is really an option.  give them a century and check up on them again.


[rhinoceros]
Heh, Sebby, I was reading something else of yours the other day:

"...i think i could run Haiti.  i could turn that country around completely."

I wonder if you have worked out an equally detailed solution for them as well.

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Re: virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of hand towin the game".
« Reply #3 on: 2004-03-18 13:18:11 »
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Like the French ice-skating judge at the Olympics said:
(use a french accent to say it)

I like it......


Dr Sebby wrote:

> ...your tag line might be the wisest one-liner i've heard in a long long
> time.  as for your idea, it wouldnt work since youre dealing with people
> operating on a completely different set of values.  a better plan would be
> to pay a guys family 1 billion$ if he agrees to walk into bagdad, speaking
> the local dialects, claim that he is a messenger from allah, lecture them on
> how they are wrong, and how allah disapproves of their interpretations, and
> just as he's about to be torn to shreds(should take long enough for the word
> to get out of the bomb blast)...have him detonate a small neutron bomb sown
> into his gut cavity.
>
> ...the better option of course would be to pull out of the entire region,
> slowly wean ourselves through technology of their oil (venezuela and texas
> etc. still has it) ban anyone EVER having visited one of those countries
> from entering the USA(like they do with israel), and put a total
> embargo...cultural, economic, etc. on islamic nations or those with
> officially recognized populations, and allow police to check
> citizenship/visa status for any stop for a period of years...and just forget
> about them and their world of crap.  lets face it, their values are
> currently too alien to ours to pretend friendship is really an option.  give
> them a century and check up on them again.
>
> DrSebby.
> "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Walter Watts <wlwatts@cox.net>
> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
> To: virus <virus@lucifer.com>
> Subject: virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of
> hand to win  the game".
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:55:10 -0600
>
> Here's an idea I think DrSebby might like.....you know, "Courage...and
> shuffle the cards".
>
> First, pull all foreign citizens out of Iraq.
>
> Second, tell them, but not really mean it, that if they can't build a
> globally peaceable government in say, 3 years, we will nuke Baghdad.
>
> na, na, na, na, na
>
> Walter
> "Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
>
> --
>
> Walter Watts
> Tulsa Network Solutions, Inc.
>
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> --Kupferberg--
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RE: virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
« Reply #4 on: 2004-03-18 14:39:10 »
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[DrSebby]
...the better option of course would be to pull out of the entire
region, slowly wean ourselves through technology of their oil (venezuela
and texas etc. still has it) ban anyone EVER having visited one of those
countries from entering the USA(like they do with israel), and put a
total embargo...cultural, economic, etc. on islamic nations or those
with officially recognized populations, and allow police to check
citizenship/visa status for any stop for a period of years...and just
forget about them and their world of crap.  lets face it, their values
are currently too alien to ours to pretend friendship is really an
option.  give them a century and check up on them again.

[Blunderov] You are very sane man, Doc!
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RE: virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
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[DrSebby]
> ...the better option of course would be to pull out
> of the entire
> region, slowly wean ourselves through technology of
> their oil (venezuela
> and texas etc. still has it) ban anyone EVER having
> visited one of those
> countries from entering the USA(like they do with
> israel),


Like my husband, who was in Saudi Arabia as part of
Desert Storm?  Like refugees?  Like people who visited
the Middle East as part of their world travels 30
years ago?  Like people who were born there but are
now US citizens?

Are you meaning to "grandfather in" people who are
already allowed in the US?  Or what?

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RE: virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
« Reply #6 on: 2004-03-19 03:26:46 »
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...actually i just meant foreigners.  but my whole "speech" was pretty much
crap anyways, so forget it please =)



DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".





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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:50:23 -0800 (PST)



[DrSebby]
> ...the better option of course would be to pull out
> of the entire
> region, slowly wean ourselves through technology of
> their oil (venezuela
> and texas etc. still has it) ban anyone EVER having
> visited one of those
> countries from entering the USA(like they do with
> israel),


Like my husband, who was in Saudi Arabia as part of
Desert Storm?  Like refugees?  Like people who visited
the Middle East as part of their world travels 30
years ago?  Like people who were born there but are
now US citizens?

Are you meaning to "grandfather in" people who are
already allowed in the US?  Or what?

--Eva

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Re:virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
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....yeah i know my supposed "solution" is absurd and foolish...i was merely
entertaining my emotions for a minute or so on a bottle of wine.

...to ruin the fun, i freely confess that the situation is soooo complex,
and with few solutions that dont cause equal harm as help.  i am in no way
one to offer a solution.  it would take me oodles of in depth research and
even then, i would be missing out on most of the really juicy portions of
the story.  in all likelyhood, it might have even been the wisest thing to
turn the other cheek to 9-11.  of course then there is the major issue of
who are the players, what are they playing for, and how far are they willing
to go (on all sides).

...so, i dont have the capacity to make accurate statements to this end...so
i will have to just shut up about that which i dont really understand.


DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".





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Subject: Re:virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight
of hand to win  the game".
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:18:12 -0700

[DrSebby]
...the better option of course would be to pull out of the entire region,
slowly wean ourselves through technology of their oil (venezuela and texas
etc. still has it) ban anyone EVER having visited one of those countries
from entering the USA(like they do with israel), and put a total
embargo...cultural, economic, etc. on islamic nations or those with
officially recognized populations, and allow police to check
citizenship/visa status for any stop for a period of years...and just forget
about them and their world of crap.  lets face it, their values are
currently too alien to ours to pretend friendship is really an option.  give
them a century and check up on them again.


[rhinoceros]
Heh, Sebby, I was reading something else of yours the other day:

"...i think i could run Haiti.  i could turn that country around
completely."

I wonder if you have worked out an equally detailed solution for them as
well.



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[DrSebby]
....yeah i know my supposed "solution" is absurd and foolish...i was merely entertaining my emotions for a minute or so on a bottle of wine.

...to ruin the fun, i freely confess that the situation is soooo complex, and with few solutions that dont cause equal harm as help.  i am in no way one to offer a solution.


[rhinoceros]
Heh, I assumed it was a joke in the first place. Now... to continue in the same spirit...

Solutions... if the bookies take bets I would put my money on the Great Ayatollah Sistani (http://slate.msn.com/id/2094814/). Well, maybe the citizens will have to settle for laws compatible with the Islam, but hey, why should Iraq be any different from its neighbors? Besides, all the media say that the guy is a secularist and he even gave an interview to a female reporter, if you can believe it!

As Dubya put it in his "State of the Union Address" (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040120-7.html):


[Dubya]
"We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again. (Applause.)"


Hmm.. wait. Doesn't this sound like appeasement? The "A" word... Andrew Sullivan will be most upset over this...

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« Reply #9 on: 2004-06-17 11:09:44 »
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And here's the post from me that DrSebby so elegantly refined.

Walter


Walter Watts wrote:

> Here's an idea I think DrSebby might like.....you know, "Courage...and
> shuffle the cards".
>
> First, pull all foreign citizens out of Iraq.
>
> Second, tell them, but not really mean it, that if they can't build a
> globally peaceable government in say, 3 years, we will nuke Baghdad.
>
> na, na, na, na, na
>
> Walter
> "Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
>
> --
>
> Walter Watts
> Tulsa Network Solutions, Inc.
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Re: virus: idea i think drsebby might like-"Courage...and use slight of hand to win the game".
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[Walter]
And here's the post from me that DrSebby so elegantly refined.

> Walter Watts wrote:
>
> Here's an idea I think DrSebby might like.....you know, "Courage...and
shuffle the cards".
>
> First, pull all foreign citizens out of Iraq.
>
> Second, tell them, but not really mean it, that if they can't build a
globally peaceable government in say, 3 years, we will nuke Baghdad.
>
> na, na, na, na, na


[rhinoceros]
Walter, no matter how much I appreciate your insight and your eagerness
to see these issues resolved, quoting previous posts is not much
different that writing new ones. We have a fairly big collection of them
to suit everyone.

In any case, things would make much more sense to me if you changed your
vote to "lift the ban." ;-)

rhino


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