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Drakeo Vortex
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virus: Raining Consciousness
« on: 2004-03-09 11:52:03 » |
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Reading my monthly Scientific American I stumble upon an article title "The
Major Unsolved Problem in Biology" by Micheal Shermer (author of Borderlands
of Science, currently reading) which is a review of 3 books explaining
consciousness all dated 2004. I compound this with 68,000 hits on amazon
keyword-consciousness and the fact that I have 20 books already heading
towards Germany that I've hand picked about consciousness before my plane
has even taken off (in the Army you must factor in quantum mechanics and
several layers of additional uncertainty principles to figure out when your
plane leaves) leading me to believe that hundreds of proffesionals all seem
to be either
A - hitting continuously on some buzzword "consciousness" to sell random
life-cisis type driftors books
B - are all in a self contained bubble in which no unified theory of "we
need to get out of here and see the world" will stop this epiphany meme
C - restateing 99% of previously written material has been shown to get
those collegiate types on the fast lane of acedemia
Oh but don't stop me now. For progress resides not in proposing new
authentic theories, It is the essence of stasis that propells science. Or to
be more correct the essence of slightly educated popular opinion of science
in stasis that propells the future of science.
Pray to the media filters
"Does thou hast not a brother that hasn't the abilities to stopeth the
redundancies"
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RE: virus: Raining Consciousness
« Reply #1 on: 2004-03-09 12:51:24 » |
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Nathanael,
I have not seen you post here before (perhaps because I have been so around
so little lately) . If you are new, welcome to the CoV. If you are a
regular, pleased to meet you. In any case, I like this post.
Kind regards
Jonathan (Limbic)
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From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
Nathanael Allison
Sent: 09 March 2004 16:52
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: virus: Raining Consciousness
Reading my monthly Scientific American I stumble upon an article title "The
Major Unsolved Problem in Biology" by Micheal Shermer (author of Borderlands
of Science, currently reading) which is a review of 3 books explaining
consciousness all dated 2004. I compound this with 68,000 hits on amazon
keyword-consciousness and the fact that I have 20 books already heading
towards Germany that I've hand picked about consciousness before my plane
has even taken off (in the Army you must factor in quantum mechanics and
several layers of additional uncertainty principles to figure out when your
plane leaves) leading me to believe that hundreds of proffesionals all seem
to be either
A - hitting continuously on some buzzword "consciousness" to sell random
life-cisis type driftors books
B - are all in a self contained bubble in which no unified theory of "we
need to get out of here and see the world" will stop this epiphany meme
C - restateing 99% of previously written material has been shown to get
those collegiate types on the fast lane of acedemia
Oh but don't stop me now. For progress resides not in proposing new
authentic theories, It is the essence of stasis that propells science. Or to
be more correct the essence of slightly educated popular opinion of science
in stasis that propells the future of science.
Pray to the media filters
"Does thou hast not a brother that hasn't the abilities to stopeth the
redundancies"
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Re: virus: Raining Consciousness
« Reply #2 on: 2004-03-09 13:18:17 » |
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Conciousness and identity are dominant, self-reinforcing memes.
IMHO, they tend to be more limiting than useful.
Hence the popularity of identity-busting technologies and drugs.
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First, read Bruce Sterling's "Distraction", and then read http://electionmethods.org.
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Re:virus: Raining Consciousness
« Reply #3 on: 2004-03-09 23:24:50 » |
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Talking about self and identity, I happened to read this review recently.
http://books.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,12084,1118942,00.html
Tales of the unexpected
The idea of the self as something wholly constructed out of the narratives we create about our lives has become a staple across the humanities. But it's utter nonsense, says Galen Strawson, considering Making Stories by Jerome Bruner
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According to the distinguished psychologist and psychiatrist Jerry Bruner, "self is a perpetually rewritten story". We are all constantly engaged in "self-making narrative" and "in the end we become the autobiographical narratives by which we 'tell about' our lives".
The clinical neurologist Oliver Sacks agrees: each of us "constructs and lives a 'narrative'... this narrative is us, our identities". To have an identity as a person, says the philosopher Marya Schechtman, is "to have a narrative self-conception... to experience the events in one's life as interpreted through one's sense of one's own life story". Alasdair MacIntyre, Charles Taylor, Paul Ricoeur, Dan Dennett and many others swell the vast hymn of assent. Sartre puts it like this: "A man is always a teller of stories, he lives surrounded by his own stories and those of other people, he sees everything that happens to him in terms of these stories and he tries to live his life as if he were recounting it."
We live in narrative, then. We are defined, constituted, by our narratives of ourselves. This isn't just the familiar, shifty claim that "the self is not something one finds; it is something one creates" (in the words of the psychoanalyst and author Thomas Szasz). The further claim is that we create or invent the self specifically by "writing" and "storying" it. This idea has come to dominate vast regions of the humanities and human sciences - in psychology, anthropology, philosophy, sociology, political theory, literary studies, religious studies and psychotherapy.
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Then the reviewer wonders if any of this is true and rejects the idea, mostly by brushing it aside as (a) not true and (b) undesirable whenever true, and he concludes:
<snip>
Sartre is wrong to say that storying oneself is a universal trait, but he's right that it is extremely common, and he is surely right, contrary to the tide of current opinion in the humanities, that the less you do it the better.
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RE: virus: Raining Consciousness
« Reply #4 on: 2004-03-10 02:23:04 » |
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....while at university, my sister had a guy from the patent office visit
her class. he said, "you wouldnt believe how many times i've seen a fairly
unique and complex invention idea submitted for patent approval by two
unrelated parties on opposite ends of the earth within minutes or hours of
each other."
...i think this might speak to your question. perhaps it's just a
"consensual conclusion". a bottleneck of human thought if you will.
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Nathanael Allison" <jubungalord@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: virus: Raining Consciousness
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 11:52:03 -0500
Reading my monthly Scientific American I stumble upon an article title "The
Major Unsolved Problem in Biology" by Micheal Shermer (author of Borderlands
of Science, currently reading) which is a review of 3 books explaining
consciousness all dated 2004. I compound this with 68,000 hits on amazon
keyword-consciousness and the fact that I have 20 books already heading
towards Germany that I've hand picked about consciousness before my plane
has even taken off (in the Army you must factor in quantum mechanics and
several layers of additional uncertainty principles to figure out when your
plane leaves) leading me to believe that hundreds of proffesionals all seem
to be either
A - hitting continuously on some buzzword "consciousness" to sell random
life-cisis type driftors books
B - are all in a self contained bubble in which no unified theory of "we
need to get out of here and see the world" will stop this epiphany meme
C - restateing 99% of previously written material has been shown to get
those collegiate types on the fast lane of acedemia
Oh but don't stop me now. For progress resides not in proposing new
authentic theories, It is the essence of stasis that propells science. Or to
be more correct the essence of slightly educated popular opinion of science
in stasis that propells the future of science.
Pray to the media filters
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redundancies"
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