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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1489635,00.html

2050 - and immortality is within our grasp

Britain's leading thinker on the future offers an extraordinary vision
of life in the next 45 years

David Smith, technology correspondent
Sunday May 22, 2005
The Observer

Aeroplanes will be too afraid to crash, yoghurts will wish you good
morning before being eaten and human consciousness will be stored on
supercomputers, promising immortality for all - though it will help to
be rich.
These fantastic claims are not made by a science fiction writer or a
crystal ball-gazing lunatic. They are the deadly earnest predictions of
Ian Pearson, head of the futurology unit at BT.

'If you draw the timelines, realistically by 2050 we would expect to be
able to download your mind into a machine, so when you die it's not a
major career problem,' Pearson told The Observer. 'If you're rich
enough then by 2050 it's feasible. If you're poor you'll probably have
to wait until 2075 or 2080 when it's routine. We are very serious about
it. That's how fast this technology is moving: 45 years is a hell of a
long time in IT.'

Pearson, 44, has formed his mind-boggling vision of the future after
graduating in applied mathematics and theoretical physics, spending
four years working in missile design and the past 20 years working in
optical networks, broadband network evolution and cybernetics in BT's
laboratories. He admits his prophecies are both 'very exciting' and
'very scary'.
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Quote from: benway on 2005-05-31 18:51:48   
[benway] I find it hard to believe that we will make that many leaps and bounds. In the past 20 years science and technology has grown a lot but that was a boom time, humanity has had times of booming technology and a Mark Twain quote comes to mind but I cannot find it. Basically he says that since the Mississippi River had grown by so many miles in 10 years in 100 years or something like that it would take up nearly the entire earth.
Either this guy is using the recent couple of decades as a template for our progress or he is just so excited about his job that he assumes the near future holds such things. I would like to see flying cars before I see this type of technological singularity.

IMNSHO Ian Pearson is remarkably competent. OTOH I think that here he is underestimating the rate of change - as I think are you. Indeed, I think that Neurovurt's interesting suggestion (my emphasis below) may be closer to the mark.

Quote from: Neurovurt on 2005-05-31 15:33:31   
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[Neurovurt] Even if all of this ominous future is possible in the near future (and I do not believe that it is), I think one could still come to terms with it. What if we simply accepted that our goal as a species was merely to bring about the next level of conscious species in the form of machine mind? Even though it will quickly escalate beyond our control, we could realize the vast significance and power of what we had done. Then maybe we could be happy with that, and resign ourselves to a more "human" fate.


But, that is not about which I meant to write. Nor was it about "Life on the Mississippi", a classic which you will find at Project Gutenberg. Rather it was about a juxtapositioning of "I would like to see flying cars before I see this type of technological singularity." and about the Volanter M400 skycar from Moller.

You can see it fly at http://www.moller.com/news/media/

The Volantor is not the first flying car. It isn't even the first practical "flying car." Though there have been other attempts, notably the Curtiss Autoplane of 1917, the first "quasi-practical" one may have been the Waterman Arrowbile of 1937

and the most practical (pre Moller) either the Fulton Airphibian of 1946

or Molt Taylor’s Aerocar of 1956.

- which, like the Airphibian was FAA certified - and even almost made it into production - not once but on multiple occasions. As usual, the marketing material was easier to produce than the product.


You might like to read more about these and others at http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/private/aerocar/info/info.htm.

There are numerous other attempts visible in the bitbucket with varying likelihoods of flying.

http://www.airscooter.com/ is real and flying - as is http://www.trekaero.com/ and even http://www.flying-platform.com/, although as a scooter, a pogostick and a frisbee equivalent respectively, they don't really fall into the flying car specification.

Against this, http://www.haynes-aero.com/Netscape/frames.html probably won't go anywhere unless he has a very wealthy uncle we don't know about yet. But he is in remarkably good company.

And I probably should suggest that you watch Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.


For more about flying cars than most people probably want to know, try http://www.roadabletimes.com/

So having seen Flying Cars, are you ready to look at this particular "technological singularity" again? If so, try Spirothetes And Humans, an incomplete article which I really should attempt to complete sometime - or at least tackle the formatting more than I have. Another day. In the meantime, you may find it interesting.
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