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RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)
« Reply #15 on: 2003-12-17 05:27:53 »
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Dear Sebby,

I would be delighted to round off your moms collection! I will e-mail you
when I get back if I have managed to find one (or steal it from some swanky
Keralan hotel!)

Kind regards

JD

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...Jonathan...i know this may seem imposing, but if you could keep your eye
out for a shotglass (maybe at the airport?) that says "india" or some such
thing on it, denoting it's origin in someway, i would be overjoyed to
reimburse you upon your return.  my mother has a shotglass collection of
this sort and so far lacks india somehow.  and no, my momma aint slammin'
jacks down...she averages about 3 glasses of wine a year, but that is her
collection so there ya go;)

...if you cant swing it or forget, no worries.  thanks for considering it at
least:)



DrSebby.
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Jonathan Davis
> Sent: 16 December 2003 2021

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> I am sorry I am just chucking this at you, but I am rushing to
organise my
> trip to India. In know you will love the book, check it out if you
can.
>
[Blunderov]
No need to apologise at all! It sounds like my cup of tea indeed. Enjoy
India. Send a postcard.
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RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)
« Reply #16 on: 2003-12-17 08:10:05 »
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...cheers to your kindness:)  just make a go of it...if you cant find one,
or you forget, dont worry about it...youre doing me a huge favor in trying. 
just dont get eaten by a tiger!



DrSebby.
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:27:53 -0000

  Dear Sebby,

I would be delighted to round off your moms collection! I will e-mail you
when I get back if I have managed to find one (or steal it from some swanky
Keralan hotel!)

Kind regards

JD

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
Dr Sebby
Sent: 16 December 2003 21:18
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)

...Jonathan...i know this may seem imposing, but if you could keep your eye
out for a shotglass (maybe at the airport?) that says "india" or some such
thing on it, denoting it's origin in someway, i would be overjoyed to
reimburse you upon your return.  my mother has a shotglass collection of
this sort and so far lacks india somehow.  and no, my momma aint slammin'
jacks down...she averages about 3 glasses of wine a year, but that is her
collection so there ya go;)

...if you cant swing it or forget, no worries.  thanks for considering it at
least:)



DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".





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Subject: RE: virus:  Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:24:35 +0200



Jonathan Davis
  > Sent: 16 December 2003 2021

<snip>
  > I am sorry I am just chucking this at you, but I am rushing to
organise my
  > trip to India. In know you will love the book, check it out if you
can.
  >
[Blunderov]
No need to apologise at all! It sounds like my cup of tea indeed. Enjoy
India. Send a postcard.
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Re: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)
« Reply #17 on: 2003-12-17 12:38:02 »
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[metahuman]
That's proven bullshit. Stupid pretender Virians. Do your research and stop believing Mickey.

[simul]

Got my info from snopes.
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First, read Bruce Sterling's "Distraction", and then read http://electionmethods.org.
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RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)
« Reply #18 on: 2003-12-17 16:12:34 »
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[metahuman]
That's proven bullshit. Stupid pretender Virians. Do your research and stop believing Mickey.

[simul]
Got my info from snopes.

[metahuman]
This right? http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flight.htm

Sorry, I read your comment wrong. I thought you were agreeing with Michael Moore's conspiracy theory.
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Re: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)
« Reply #19 on: 2003-12-17 17:41:51 »
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[metahuman]
This right? http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flight.htm

Sorry, I read your comment wrong. I thought you were agreeing with Michael Moore's conspiracy theory.

[simul]

My comment was that our government rounded up members of the Bin Laden family during the flight lockdown and flew them to DC.  They were then flown to Paris after the ban was lifted.  Never mentioned a conspiracy, just clearing up facts.

On another note, is there anything going on at home or in your personal life that you might want to share with us?  It often helps put perspective on things when you share them with new people.
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RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)
« Reply #20 on: 2003-12-17 22:38:19 »
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[simul]
My comment was that our government rounded up members of the Bin Laden family during the flight lockdown and flew them to DC.  They were then flown to Paris after the ban was lifted.  Never mentioned a conspiracy, just clearing up facts.

[meta]
Small correction: members of the bin Laden family in addition to other Saudi Arabians who feared for their lives called the appropriate agencies after the explosions and requested to be moved to a safe location. The government didn't take it upon itself to round them up. (Sarcasm: since when does the USG do anything without a kick in the ass?)

[simul]
On another note, is there anything going on at home or in your personal life that you might want to share with us?  It often helps put perspective on things when you share them with new people.

[meta]
Not really. My college semester literally just ended. I'm going to a lot more parties now. Having a good time. More respect from friends and acquaintances, and there's this girl I'm after. Oh, and I'm trying to kick my ass into gear to start building a home gym, workout, get buff, and cut so I can feel more confident about myself when flirting with the girl.
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RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)
« Reply #21 on: 2003-12-18 02:11:48 »
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Oh, and I'm trying to kick
> my ass into gear to start building a home gym, workout, get buff, and
cut
> so I can feel more confident about myself when flirting with the girl.
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[Blunderov] I would be interested in your conclusions with regard to
home gym equipment if you care to pass them on. Kalkor (from whom,
sadly, we have not heard much lately) seems to be quite an expert on
these matters.

Here in SA we have many infomercials extolling the virtues of innovative
home gym equipment but six months later all the second-hand shops are
stuffed with dusty buns-busters, ab-flexors, air-walkers and similar.

An interesting lesson in marketing and consumerism - seemingly people
are happy to spend their money on these devices, abandon them and them
go out and buy yet other devices only to abandon those in turn.

There's gold in them thar hills!*

Best Regards

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« Reply #22 on: 2003-12-18 06:20:36 »
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[Blunderov]
I would be interested in your conclusions with regard to
home gym equipment if you care to pass them on.

[metahuman]
The best and last site you'll ever need regarding working out and making the most of your body:

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/

From one of the articles on building a personal gym....

Rule #1:  You must deadlift.
Rule #2:  You must squat.
Rule #3:  You must bench.
Rule #4:  You must engage in maximal effort training.
Rule #5:  You must engage in dynamic effort training.
Rule #6:  You must utilize accommodating resistance principles.
Rule #7:  You must do heavy abs for your core.
Rule #8:  You must lift in a compound manner.
Rule #9:  You must utilize constant variation.
Rule #10: You must do Olympic lifts.
Rule #11: No whining.

Build your gym and construct a routine with those rules in mind. Then execute the routine.
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« Reply #23 on: 2003-12-18 07:06:18 »
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Of metahuman
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> Subject: RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam
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>
> [Blunderov]
> I would be interested in your conclusions with regard to
> home gym equipment if you care to pass them on.
>
> [metahuman]
> The best and last site you'll ever need regarding working out and
making
> the most of your body:
>
> http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/
>
> From one of the articles on building a personal gym....
>
> Rule #1:  You must deadlift.
> Rule #2:  You must squat.
> Rule #3:  You must bench.
> Rule #4:  You must engage in maximal effort training.
> Rule #5:  You must engage in dynamic effort training.
> Rule #6:  You must utilize accommodating resistance principles.
> Rule #7:  You must do heavy abs for your core.
> Rule #8:  You must lift in a compound manner.
> Rule #9:  You must utilize constant variation.
> Rule #10: You must do Olympic lifts.
> Rule #11: No whining.
>
> Build your gym and construct a routine with those rules in mind. Then
> execute the routine.
[Blunderov1]Much obliged. Thanks to the Mermaid's Virian boot camp I
have become something of a gym creature - those endorphins totally rock
- but I needed more expert info, which thanks to you, I now have.
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[Blunderov] I would be interested in your conclusions with regard to
home gym equipment if you care to pass them on. Kalkor (from whom,
sadly, we have not heard much lately) seems to be quite an expert on
these matters.

[Michelle] Kalkor's busy with school but I'm an exercise buff myself...
FREE WEIGHTS!  FREE WEIGHTS!  Sadly most people are not motivated enough
to watch a miniseries in its entirety, let alone follow through on a
lifelong commitment to their health.

Most of the "innovative" stuff is total crap, and that's why people stop
using it.  It's marketed in a way that makes people think that it will
do the focusing and thinking for them, which is why it does not work.
In my opinion after years of hard work, the true benefit of exercise
comes only when it's used to improve your mind-body connection, which
requires concentration and observation.  A quiet place, if you will. 

I'm always reminded of and motivated by a post of Walter's from years
back where he gave virian points to a healthy life and one of them was
"remember to exercise every day so your brain remembers it's attached to
a living body".  Or something like that.  You get the principle.

In addition, the only form of exercise that actually grants measurable
health improvement and longevity benefits is weight training.  What I've
heard and read indicates that growing new muscle stimulates the body to
release HGH and therefore fight ageing in all its forms.  Other types of
exercise, particularly "aerobic" exercise, requires so much faith and
commitment... the results go away if you don't maintain on at least a
weekly basis... the gratification is minor unless you are also following
a diet plan and see cosmetic changes, or take up an endurance sport to
use your new aerobic capacity...

I'm full of opinions if you'd like any more.


Michelle



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« Reply #25 on: 2003-12-18 10:50:46 »
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[metahuman]
The best and last site you'll ever need regarding working out and making
the most of your body:

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/

[Michelle] cool link!  Thanks!


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« Reply #26 on: 2003-12-18 13:58:23 »
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Michelle Anderson
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> Subject: RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam
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>
> In addition, the only form of exercise that actually grants measurable
> health improvement and longevity benefits is weight training.  What
I've
> heard and read indicates that growing new muscle stimulates the body
to
> release HGH and therefore fight ageing in all its forms.  Other types
of
> exercise, particularly "aerobic" exercise, requires so much faith and
> commitment... the results go away if you don't maintain on at least a
> weekly basis... the gratification is minor unless you are also
following
> a diet plan and see cosmetic changes, or take up an endurance sport to
> use your new aerobic capacity...
>
> I'm full of opinions if you'd like any more.
>
[Blunderov] Thanks for your trouble. It is most interesting to me. I
have found that I quite like the weight machines as opposed to the
hectic aerobic stuff, so what you write is welcome news to me.
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« Reply #27 on: 2003-12-18 16:39:53 »
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Bikram yoga produces lasting results.

Weight loss, increased energy and alertness.

Insomniacs may want to note that Bikram yoga has helped 2 people I know.
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Subject: RE: virus:  Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam arrested)

Michelle Anderson
> Sent: 18 December 2003 1750
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: RE: virus: Osama bin Laden and the Bushes (was Saddam
arrested)
>
> In addition, the only form of exercise that actually grants measurable
> health improvement and longevity benefits is weight training.  What
I've
> heard and read indicates that growing new muscle stimulates the body
to
> release HGH and therefore fight ageing in all its forms.  Other types
of
> exercise, particularly "aerobic" exercise, requires so much faith and
> commitment... the results go away if you don't maintain on at least a
> weekly basis... the gratification is minor unless you are also
following
> a diet plan and see cosmetic changes, or take up an endurance sport to
> use your new aerobic capacity...
>
> I'm full of opinions if you'd like any more.
>
[Blunderov] Thanks for your trouble. It is most interesting to me. I
have found that I quite like the weight machines as opposed to the
hectic aerobic stuff, so what you write is welcome news to me.
Best Regards


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« Reply #28 on: 2003-12-20 05:20:19 »
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Quote from: metahuman on 2003-12-15 16:34:05   

Michael Moore lies so much to make a buck that it would be stupid of anyone to pass him off as a credible source of information.

Hey, do you have some kind of fucking INTERNET TROLL MADLIB you religiously consult with every post, making sure that whatever is being said at the time somehow fits into your generic, nonsensical denial of all contributions?  Get lost already, hypocrite. Fucking. Christ. Allready.  LEAVE!
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Quote from: metahuman on 2003-12-16 03:50:06   

[Blunderov]
I see. Perhaps you would care to point out the lies in the section of
his book that I posted?

[metahuman]
Copious defensive pro-Moore bullshit. Someone call the clean-up crew!

Oh, right then, calling someone a 'liar' with absolutely no proof either way is a really great offensive tactic, I might add.  For a **5-year-old**.
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