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Virus: Bin Laden speaks of over-throwing Saddam.
« on: 2003-02-13 10:34:06 » |
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http://alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15176
Osama Rallies Muslims, Condemns Hussein
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Powell used the existence of this tape, and the words he claimed bin Laden had said on it, to further tie Saddam Hussein to international terrorism. He claimed bin Laden was clearly establishing a connection between himself and Hussein on the tape, beyond all question. "This nexus between terrorists and states that are developing weapons of mass destruction," said Powell, "can no longer be looked away from and ignored."
The actual tape, played and translated live on every major cable news channel, told a very different story. Osama bin Laden swore vengeance against America if Iraq was attacked, and demanded that the Muslim world stand in solidarity with the Muslim people of Iraq. In very clear words, Osama bin Laden told the people of Iraq to rise up against both American aggression and against "socialist" Saddam Hussein. If the translations that were provided were reliable, there is no ambiguity in bin Laden's words on the matter. So much, it seems, for Powell's case that Hussein and bin Laden are working together.
And this is where it gets interesting.
An MSNBC.com report on the bin Laden tape carried the following sentence: "At the same time, the message also called on Iraqis to rise up and oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, who is a secular leader." This clearly confirms the clarity of mind Osama bin Laden displayed in regard to Saddam Hussein, and conforms to the recorded message heard by millions and millions of people around the world.
Less than twenty minutes after this report appeared on MSNBC, that sentence was deleted from the report. A few intrepid Internet news junkies, including myself, preserved what is called a 'screen-grab' of the original article before it was scrubbed. The version of the article currently in existence has replaced the text above with this far more benign text: "The taped statement reflected Saddam, a secular leader, but made it clear that Saddam was not the immediate target." A similar story line, bereft of the portions describing bin Laden's wish that Hussein be killed, has appeared in virtually every mainstream news media report on the matter.
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Re:Virus: Bin Laden speaks of over-throwing Saddam.
« Reply #1 on: 2003-02-13 13:58:02 » |
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I heard both of the messages as well.
I did not feel that I was being lied to, but that a "Public Perspective", or "Spin" as Michelle would call it, had been chosen by the press to match that coming from the administration and Colin Powell.
There is no doubt that the jist was "Go get America" - nothing new to me. I fail to understand how it can get worse. As far as I am concerned, declaring war on me once is the same as declaring war on me every few weeks.
The secondary message seemed to me to be what you are saying. Saddam is NOT in the favor of the speaker on the tape. Not a real big surprise either. Saddam is a man of convenience for them, nothing more. As well as secularism, or any other group. From the perspective of the terrorists relevant to this discussion, we are all enemies Allah.
This is a good example of how we need to be responsible for the things we choose to believe. The news is there, and if we don't look for it, we stand the risk of being sucked into the media money machine. Remember, news is not a right, it's a business.
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Re:Virus: Bin Laden speaks of over-throwing Saddam.
« Reply #2 on: 2003-02-14 00:26:24 » |
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Quote from: BillRoh on 2003-02-13 13:58:02
Remember, news is not a right, it's a business.
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Very well said. So true...
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Re:Virus: Bin Laden speaks of over-throwing Saddam.
« Reply #3 on: 2003-02-14 07:00:02 » |
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[Bill Roh]
I did not feel that I was being lied to, but that a "Public Perspective", or "Spin" as Michelle would call it, had been chosen by the press to match that coming from the administration and Colin Powell.
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This is a good example of how we need to be responsible for the things we choose to believe. The news is there, and if we don't look for it, we stand the risk of being sucked into the media money machine. Remember, news is not a right, it's a business.
[rhinoceros]
Business it is... Even so, if someone sold me a can of my favorite flavor of coffee, but with a "spin" on quality or weight, should I just say "Itsok, they will go out of business eventually?" Or should I raise hell?
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