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« Reply #1 on: 2003-01-29 16:01:37 »
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[Joe Dees] Fuck you AND your chackwhore slut!

[Hermitess] And what did I do to you, sloppy Joe? Or is it just that you are feeling a little green? You are right. I like fucking. A lot. With Hermit. As if it was any of your business. Now, don't forget your daily doses of Prozac and CNN. When you stop thinking again you will stop being jealous and feel much happier...

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Re: virus: Carlita Hermie...
« Reply #2 on: 2003-01-29 16:29:37 »
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...the first Joe message ive read in ages.  what a wonderful reintroduction
to him.  Joe i am seriously considering the option of hoping for an early
demise to your mother just in the hopes that it will force you to move on. 
the day that you stop roosting here will be a happy day for all.  you have
effectively been driven insane by the massive amount of time and nothingness
which has been tossed onto your plate.  you have become very very tiresome. 
i cant give you any suggestions(not that yyou would listen to them anyways)
since i dont know your exact situation...but dude, get out and do some shit,
please.  and leave hermit's crack whore alone...go get your own.


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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:41:01 -0600

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« Reply #5 on: 2003-01-29 17:47:14 »
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I am the last person to come to the defense of Carl, well second to last, and I won't do so here. And Joe, you know I have stood with you through some bad times. But I take exception at the way you treat Tina.

I think it is out of line for any of us to attack each others mates for no good reason. And just because Carl likes to attack your family and mine, I certainly thought you to be above Carl is this regard. I hold you to a higher standard.

For those of you that know Tina, you know that Tina is one of the nicest, brightest, and demonstrates more Empathy then most other people on the planet. Don't let your distaste for Hermit spread beyond it's focus, Tina does not deserve it and I don't think you would mean it if you knew the woman.

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« Reply #6 on: 2003-01-29 18:18:26 »
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Nobody asked you for an opinion Bill Roh. Probably on the grounds that it seems that it is worthless. Why on earth don't you fuck-off back to your alternate Virus taking Joe along with you? Or has your constitutional inability to do what you say, honor your commitments or act consistently already caused its demise?

So far as I recall, I have not said anything about your unreliable and psychotic family that you have not either said (including the foregoing) or demonstrated, but if I have, feel free to remind me. In the meantime, your slimy, two-faced "defense" of a woman whom you must think is the world's greatest fool for hanging out with me is unneeded and unappreciated. Or didn't you draw the rational conclusion of your words? In which case, you are even more of a fool than I had already concluded.

In other words hypocrite, stick your defense of Hermitess right back up your ass - or Joe's if you can get your head out of it first. She can defend herself quite competently against scurrilous - but direct - attacks without assistance, but would prefer not to have to deal with your sickening two-faced, backstabbing hypocrisy.

Hermit (Tiring of dealing with knaves and fools - let alone the combination)
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« Reply #9 on: 2003-01-29 18:54:25 »
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Of course nobody asked for Bill's opinion.    We can post to whichever topics we please.  This is an email list, after all.      Besides,  I don't remember any thread that required the prerequisite of inquiring if an opinion is ok to post. 

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« Reply #10 on: 2003-01-29 18:57:57 »
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Carl's post to the list Sept 13th:


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Due to the lack of investment of committed time and inability to reach concensus, the experimental hierarch was eventually disbanded, and the Church of Virus simply continues to be run as a phenotype of the Virian council.

PS Nice of you to confirm publically the worth of your word. It seems that you are as trustworthy, stable and reliable as your cousin - welcome back to the list Bill - assessed you as being back when you departed... Of course, he turned out to be not quite stable too. But then, this does tend to run in families...


And yes, Tina has her reasons for caring about you, and I am pleased that she seems to be happy.

Despite Carl being Carl, and I will not engage him as he would like, i still stand by the notion that we ought to leave our mates out of such battles unless they have some reason to be there.

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Nobody asked you for an opinion Bill Roh. Probably on the grounds that
> it seems that it is worthless.

You are so sweet... so warm, and so full of empathy that it makes me wanna kiss ya.
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« Reply #11 on: 2003-01-29 20:04:12 »
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[Bill Roh] Carl's post to the list Sept 13th:
[Bill Roh] Quote: Due to the lack of investment of committed time and inability to reach concensus, the experimental hierarch was eventually disbanded, and the Church of Virus simply continues to be run as a phenotype of the Virian council.
[Bill Roh]  S Nice of you to confirm publically the worth of your word. It seems that you are as trustworthy, stable and reliable as your cousin - welcome back to the list Bill - assessed you as being back when you departed... Of course, he turned out to be not quite stable too. But then, this does tend to run in families...

[Hermit] As I observed at the time, you were the one who told me not to bother with Casey as that side of your family was unstable to the point of psychosis...  and later you were the one who abandoned your professed friendship, you were the one who abandonded your commitments to me and others,  you and Casey were the ones who broke your word on confidentiality agreements and you and Casey were the ones who proceeded to do what you had criticised in others when you decided to link what you imagined to be my name to my nick...  Which is why, as I said, "I have not said anything about your unreliable and psychotic family that you have not either said (including the foregoing) or demonstrated, but if I have, feel free to remind me." and why your response simply confirms my original statement.

[Bill Roh] And yes, Tina has her reasons for caring about you, and I am pleased that she seems to be happy.
[Hermit] I suggest you drop this line and encourage your cousin who is suggesting that we don't need to ask permission to "contribute" personal matters to a thread to do the same. Or do we start discussing your customer base at Roh's Commercial Sound Systems (including the charismatic churches), your drug habits (at home and in Mexico) and your familly affairs (including your rather unusual marital arrangements and your cousin's life  according to you)? Given your overt hostility and apparent desire for a war, carefully indexed by Google, I am prepared to go either way and let the chips land where they will. But what do you imagine you will gain from it?

[Bill Roh] Despite Carl being Carl, and I will not engage him as he would like, i still stand by the notion that we ought to leave our mates out of such battles unless they have some reason to be there.
[Hermit] Actually, I seem to think that this must be Dees and yourself that you are talking about. I haven't said anything about his "mate" - or yours for that matter. Unlike the pair of you.

[Bill Roh] Carl: Quote: Nobody asked you for an opinion Bill Roh. Probably on the grounds that it seems that it is worthless.
[Bill Roh] You are so sweet... so warm, and so full of empathy that it makes me wanna kiss ya.

[Hermit] I guess that I (and others) might think that we have reasons to feel some prejudice towards one that we perceive as being an unstable two-faced liar...  Would you have me be as hypocritical as you, and pretend that I regard you with anything but jaundice? As for kisses, there would be precedent. Reference Matthew 26:49, Mark 14:45 and Luke 22:47-48. Yet I still think I will give them a miss. I seem to have developed an allergy...
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« Reply #12 on: 2003-01-29 20:51:29 »
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*Trys to calm everyone down and sits them down at a table.*
*Fixes them all up cups of tea*

      Now, can't we all just sit back, act civil, and quit flaming each other?  Flame wars can be amusing from time to time guys, but honestly, if you want to have some hufe arguement and insult each other, why don't you take it off the board?  Why don't just keep your messages as personal messages between each other.  We don't need to hear your sensless bullshit.  All of your guys should be smart enough to see fighting like this solves nothing.  It only re-opens old wounds and hurts the list in the end. 

More tea?

    Everyone involved has made great contributions to the CoV, and their work is highly appreciated by many who visit.  Though the recent (within the last year) happenings has lowered many peoples' opinions of you guys.  Why don't we put away the flame-throwers and stop spending our time arguing and actually do something productive like coding some new program, designing a website, writing an article, or maybe even jerk off.  Sure would be a lot more useful then these infantile quarrels.  Its radiculous.  Seriously  Dees, I'm sure Hermit honestly knows that your mother isn't a drooling retard.  I'm sure he didn't mean it.  He just said it to get under your skin.  And he did a damn good job doing it as well.  And I'm sure you know that his woman isn't a five-cent-hooker as well.  So being angry at each other for such idiotic accusations is senseless.

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« Reply #13 on: 2003-01-29 21:13:25 »
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Humm, I started typing and got distracted, if this post comes partial, then again but complete, sorry.

I'll be glad to mention all the things you seem to think are personal in my life. And I am pleased to have the invitation.

1> My family is crazy. I probably have said that. It's an affectionate and common term in my family. We have names for each other that fit that description quite well. None the less, it my family, and I love and will stick with every one of them. This does not mean that my family is open to attack by people outside my family with little understanding of the family dynamics involved. When Casey and yourself got into it, I recommended to you that your strategy of dealing with him would fail, continual abuse usually does fail. At the stage you reached there was no way for Casey and yourself to communicate. I gave Casey the same advise.

And why on earth would a man copy the identity of another man, and get his email address at hotmail? Any ideas on that CA5EY?

2> The customer base of Roh's Incorporated: I don't remember discussing this with Hermit. But I am happy to discuss it with anyone. My store has 3 divisions. Retail, Commercial and Industrial. The retail caters to high end AV equipment, plasma displays, projectors, white goods etc. The Industrial dept deals with CCTV, security, access systems and the like for defense contractors, IBM, Microsoft, the Federal govt, etc... The Commercial department deals with commercial sound and video. Churches (all manner of them) mosques, temples, etc.... As well as board rooms, PA systems, Stadium sound systems etc... Church work for a while took a majority of the crew, but that work is dying down to be replaced by defense work. It'll be back soon. Churches generally make excellent customers and are usually good to deal with. Usually I do not have to deal with my Atheisism and I used to be worried about the effects it would have on my clientele, however, I have had to discuss the issue in the last 2 churches I built sound systems in. They didn't seem to care. Porn shops are good customers too. You oughta see 50" Plasma displays in a room full of mirrors and women dancing around naked. Quite a sight. Thats about as interesting as it gets.

3> Indeed I have been a proponent of the legalization of marijuana since I was about 22. I used to be a user, though circumstances have dicatated that I leave that life behind a couple of years back with the birth of my son. As I choose to not risk losing my son due to some jackass hoping to cause harm, I have given up that luxury. My responsibilities dictated it.

4> I do not have any unusual maritial arrangements though many years ago it looked like we might part ways due to a lack of sex. We seperated for a while as well and I enjoyed that time, but since I have seen you that problem has been rectified and all of it's issues aired out between us. But if there is something you need  to know in your quest to harm others I'll be glad to share what I can that won't hurt my wife.

Carl Wagener
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I haven't said anything about his "mate" - or yours for that matter. Unlike the pair of you

Please read Carl's paragraph above this one in his message. And my comments about your mate were common knowledge and complimentary. In fact in that paragraph is a threat to harm my wife and family. It's implied by Carl hoping to gain a foot up because he thinks he has personal info that will cause stress to my wife and immediate family. Certainly Carl is aware that if he were correct in thinking that there was dirt here, he could use it to hurt my marriage and seperate my family. Gee, how much crueler can a person be in their heart then that? What more evidence does one need to determine Carl Wagener's intentions? Fortunately Carl is simply unaware that all these issues are done with and long gone, my wife, son and I are happier and more successful then we ever imagined, and beyond his grasp.

6> And what responsibilities to the CoV did I abandon? Just give me one - and tell the truth Carl Wagener.


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Given your overt hostility and apparent desire for a war, carefully indexed by Google, I am prepared to go either way and let the chips land where they will. But what do you imagine you will gain from it?

I have repeatedly said on this board and I think I am doing fairly well, that I wish to improve the situation between all of us. I have no insults for you. I defy anyone to go to google and check on my "overt hostility" in relation to Hermit since my return. I have no doubt that you will find a great shortage of the "overt hostility" you claim. And whoever does that, please add up Carl's as well so that you can count how many more times Hermit is guilty of "Overt hostility". What will I gain? I have nothing to gain or lose. I know what I have typed over the last year.

I'll hold out the olive branch here again and again. I suspect that you will slap it down every time. When you do, I'll hold it out again. It's fairly simple Carl, as long as you do not speak for the CoV, I have no real complaints (Aside from the general nastiness that we are addressing here). I would rather get on with the topics that arise for discussion, then endlessly waste time bantering with you. I am surprised that you cannot find even that common ground with me.

And all this for saying that Joe was being rude.


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« Reply #14 on: 2003-01-30 00:18:50 »
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grrrrrrrr!!!!

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> [Hermit] I suggest you drop this line and encourage your cousin who is suggesting that we don't need to ask permission to "contribute" personal matters to a thread to do the same. Or do we start discussing your customer base at Roh's Commercial Sound Systems (including the charismatic churches), your drug habits (at home and in Mexico) and your familly affairs (including your rather unusual marital arrangements and your cousin's life  according to you)? Given your overt hostility and apparent desire for a war, carefully indexed by Google, I am prepared to go either way and let the chips land where they will. But what do you imagine you will gain from it?
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