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« on: 2002-01-07 23:45:47 »
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I'd like to put together a suggested curriculum for people new to the ideas of evolution and memetics. Darwin's Dangerous Idea http://virus.lucifer.com/book_ddi.html by Dan Dennett is a great book, but I'm not sure it is the best one to read first. What do you suggest, and in what order?


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« Reply #1 on: 2002-01-08 02:56:19 »
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My top 6 (in order of impact to me personally), read before I was so fortuitously introduced to CoV.

1) Mythology’s Last Gods, William Harwood, Prometheus Books
2) Darwin's Dangerous Idea : Evolution and the Meanings of Life, Daniel Dennett, Touchstone Books
3) Consciousness Explained, Daniel Dennett, Little Brown & Co. Books
4) Wrinkles in Time, George Smoot, Avon Books
5) The Demon-Haunted World : Science As a Candle in the Dark, Carl Sagan, Ballantine Books
6) The Whole Shebang : A State-Of-The-Universe(S) Report, Timothy Ferris, Simon & Schuster Books

Books I have read, some that were recommended by fellow virians, in order of impact to me personally:

1) At Home in the Universe, Stuart Kauffman
2) The Extended Phenotype, Richard Dawkins
3) The Feeling of What Happens, Antonio Damasio (I'm a big consciousness freak)
4) The Elegant Universe, Brian Greene
5) Time's Arrow & Archimedes' Point, Huw Price
6) The Time Before History, Colin Tudge
7) The Meme Machine, Susan Blackmore
An Intimate History of Humanity, Theodore Zeldin

And just for fun and to observe applied science put to work:
9) The Making of the Atomic Bomb, Richard Rhodes

And to see NASA play the comedian to ESA's straight man:
10) The Hubble Wars, Eric Chaisson

You've probably noticed there is a slight "astronomy" bias in my list, the reason being I'm an amateur(with a capital a) CCD astrophotographer.

Next on my list is Howard Bloom's "The Lucifer Principle". I've heard good things about it.

PS--Just recently finished Bloom's "Lucifer Principle". OUTSTANDING!!!

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Darwin's theory would be better quoted as
"elimination of the weakest" rather than as
"survival of the fittest".  Lamark's ideas were
right-on for social (memetic) evolution, but
not for biological (genetic) evolution.
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« Reply #5 on: 2002-05-24 19:48:44 »
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Hello, this is Jake Sapiens, Loki, Viral Prophet, whatever handle you remember me by, or just plain "Jake".

I will be trying to dip my foot in the pool again, but let me start by a book recommendation. . . I will be doing a more thorough review soon.

Pascal Boyer's "Religion Explained: the evolutionary origins of religious thought".  This book is "spot on" in relation to the Church of the Virus project of understanding the memetics of religion.  Indeed he makes a very good use of the concept of memes in explaining his teory which is based on a significant amount of anthropological evidence, and social psychological experimentation.  This book addresses a lot of the interests that originally drew me to the Church of the Virus some years ago, and I think others will certainly find an inquisitive rational attitude that cuts to the very heart of our concerns with religion in the Virus.  It was published last year (2001) by Basic Books.  Whether you subscribe to his theory or not, understanding it will most certainly prove important in moving our own project forward, as he makes many good points that memetically seem to demand attention if not vigorous intellectual response on behalf of the reader.

Hello again,

Jake
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