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| 15:33:46 | LuciferLurking | Ophis, do you think AI can reach human levels and beyond? |
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| 15:34:57 | Ophis | I think they will but I don't think we're anywhere close to that. |
| 15:35:52 | Ophis | What do you think Lucifer. You're the expert on the matter aren't you? |
| 15:36:15 | LuciferLurking | By some definitions I am an expert on AI |
| 15:37:10 | Ophis | So how far away are we to have an AI being able to run our enterprises and research departments? |
| 15:37:16 | LuciferLurking | Before I answer, how would relate where we are today with AI comparing it to going to the moon? |
| 15:37:57 | sat | According to guiys like Ray Kurzwiel we are about 30 years away from that Ophis. |
| 15:37:59 | Ophis | AIs can now take-off and land airplanes. That's a small step for AIs but a big step for is right? |
| 15:38:07 | sat | But I personaly have no idea. |
| 15:38:38 | Ophis | It seems to me that we are missing a critical factor of creativity, or maybe it's just complexity? |
| 15:38:57 | LuciferLurking | Do you think today we are more like Goddard launching model rockets, or da Vinci drawing pictures of flying machines? |
| 15:39:15 | sat | da Vinci |
| 15:39:19 | Ophis | I think that we are closer to DaVinci |
| 15:39:56 | sat | A lot of the transhumanist stuff is fascinating, but seems like sci-fantasy in many ways. |
| 15:40:12 | sat | Kinda like sceintific occultism. |
| 15:40:45 | LuciferLurking | Are you talking about nanotechnology and/or AI and/or cryonics and/or uploading? |
| 15:41:15 | Ophis | Let's stick to AI. |
| 15:41:32 | sat | all of it. I mean I've considered cryonics and the subsets of reanimation, but it does seem far fetched. |
| 15:42:06 | LuciferLurking | Do you think technological progress is going to start slowing down? |
| 15:42:46 | sat | No I see it accelerating. But the leafs and nodes of where it goes and what happens are to complex. |
| 15:42:47 | Ophis | I don't think so. But making things smaller and faster is different from coming up with a breakthrough like artificial creativity |
| 15:43:46 | sat | the proof of principle for artificial creativity in in the evolutionary process. |
| 15:43:59 | Ophis | Then again, I guess I'd need a good definition of creativity in order to be able to criticize AI's lack of it. |
| 15:44:06 | Ophis | Futura what is creativity |
| 15:44:07 | Futura | Ophis: Ummm...I dont know. |
| 15:44:12 | Ophis | Figures :-) |
| 15:44:13 | sat | If evelution, a sloppy slow programmer, can do it so can we. |
| 15:44:35 | sat | What is Ai Futura/ |
| 15:44:36 | Futura | sat: Ummm...I dont know. |
