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Demon
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Disowning Hermit
« on: 2003-08-19 04:43:57 » |
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Call for the Disownment of Hermit with Immediate Effect
This letter should be read in conjunction with [ Hermit, "Disownment", 2003-08-19 ]
Jurisdiction
Hermit claims to be a member of the CoV despite evidence that suggests otherwise. Thus, the CoV has Jurisdiction to determine his standing and the right to evaluate his actions.
Accusation
If we examine Hermit's behavior over the last three years, he appears guilty of creating massive unhappiness and discord within the membership and of harming the reputation of the CoV. In the former through his conduct and actions making our forums unpleasant and unuseable by other members, in the latter in coninuously advocating the anti American, neoconservative "Hermit's Universe First and Only" belief system in such volumes and aggression as to preclude any effective response. A system which is rejected as bigoted by the vast majority of our membership and potential membership, yet which is now by default the "face" of the CoV.
Action to Date
Hermit has been remonstrated with, appealed to, disciplined and the saga continues. We have offered a "soft schism" and this was not acceptable.
Call for Immediate Action
At this point, the only fair response to the hypocritical vote to censure Joe Dees (a valued member no matter how much snotty nosed senile British guys with doctorates in deception and computer science attempt to deny it) while ignoring the egregarious and ongoing malevolence of Hermit, without even offering the possibility of an abstainment*, has resulted in forcing the membership into the hypocritical action of nullification*.
How much more damage are we to tolerate? David Lucifer, I suggest that at this point either the CoV will take action to Disown Hermit, or a "hard schism" will inevitably follow.
Recommended Process
A Vote To Disownment: A vote is established calling for the Immediate Disownment of Hermit.
A Vote to Shun: A second vote calling for the purging of selected or all material posted by Hermit to our various public forums to be held contemporaneously.
Franchise: All members of the CoV who have become, or register to become, members of the Rating system.
Duration: This Vote to close 36 hours after establishment.
Adjudication: The vote to be carried in the event of a 60% majority for the immediate disownment of Hermit.
Closure: Discussion of the results - whether positive or negative - to be declared off-topic forevermore after the vote is closed under pain of suspension per the standing rules.
Demon
*Nullification occurs when reasonable people people decide that the law or the court is grossly unfair or inappropriate and thus refuse to convict irrespective of evidence or argument.
*Abstention occurs when people refuse to vote on the grounds that the vote is rigged or inappropriate.
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Hermit
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Prime example of a practically perfect person
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Re:Disowning Hermit
« Reply #1 on: 2003-08-19 04:45:20 » |
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Excellent idea
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With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. - Steven Weinberg, 1999
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Zloduska
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Handcuffs are for amateurs.
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Re:Disowning Hermit
« Reply #2 on: 2003-08-19 05:23:58 » |
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Quote from: metahuman on 2003-08-19 04:43:57
Accusation
If we examine Hermit's behavior over the last three years, he appears guilty of creating massive unhappiness and discord within the membership and of harming the reputation of the CoV. In the former through his conduct and actions making our forums unpleasant and unuseable by other members, in the latter in coninuously advocating the anti American, neoconservative "Hermit's Universe First and Only" belief system in such volumes and aggression as to preclude any effective response. A system which is rejected as bigoted by the vast majority of our membership and potential membership, yet which is now by default the "face" of the CoV.
Action to Date
Hermit has been remonstrated with, appealed to, disciplined and the saga continues. We have offered a "soft schism" and this was not acceptable.
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Nice typo. Surely you're referring to a certain other party's behavior.... With all the flaming and name-tossing, and as you seem to have arrived minutes ago (ex., your utter cluelessness), you must be awfully confused.
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Demon
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Re:Disowning Hermit
« Reply #3 on: 2003-08-19 05:25:39 » |
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Zloduska: Go get stuffed.
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David Lucifer
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Enlighten me.
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Re: virus: Re:Disowning Hermit
« Reply #4 on: 2003-08-19 09:06:55 » |
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Dispite some people's wishful thinking, deciding which messages represent valid
criticisms and which are personal attacks is not cut and dried. For instance I
notice that one person has taken to posting ad hominens about subsets of the
membership, alluding to their identity, but with enough vagueness to make it
slightly less than a personal attack.
This example, however, is unambigous. metahuman will be Silenced for one week, no trial.
----- Original Message -----
From: "metahuman" <hidden@lucifer.com>
To: <virus@lucifer.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:25 AM
Subject: virus: Re:Disowning Hermit
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> Zloduska: Go get stuffed.
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Demon
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Re: virus: Re:Disowning Hermit
« Reply #5 on: 2003-08-19 09:29:05 » |
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[Lucifer]
Dispite some people's wishful thinking, deciding which messages represent valid
criticisms and which are personal attacks is not cut and dried. For instance I
notice that one person has taken to posting ad hominens about subsets of the
membership, alluding to their identity, but with enough vagueness to make it
slightly less than a personal attack.
This example, however, is unambigous. metahuman will be Silenced for one week, no trial.
[Demon]
Read your e-mail, dickhead. I'm out of this dump. This corrupt organization isn't worth my efforts to restore its original philosophy.
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