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DP......Yes, life expectancy has nearly doubled since the early 19th century. Earth First fundie's deep ecology is a death wish. During the little ice age the Icelandic peoples were 4'' shorter and lived 10 less years. The life expectancy in Europe reflected the same stats. SHORTER!!!!! What could that be from??? duh.

I just finished a workout and my head is buzzed, hope this makes sense:

Back to morality, significance, symbioses and law: The legislated codes of conduct are what are considered morally and socially significant, thus relative, not absolute. The legislated codes are an attempt to set a standard for moral symbioses that reflects vital tribal cooperation within a competitive sphere. Naturally emerging factors outside of compulsory morality are charity, altruism and volunteerism. Those plus empathy and sympathy have a profound effect on the dynamics of the cultural symbioses. Therein lies cooperation-symbiosis based upon common values of significance. It elevates a society beyond hard darwinism.............. yadayadayada. jim aka .......flash!

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At 12:42 22/05/99 -0400, psypher wrote:

>...in no sense can our civilization be said to fulfil the criteria
>for symbioses. We have constructed a hierarchy propagated through
>force to maintain the priviledge of a tiny segment of the global
>poulace much to the detriment of the rest. In a symbiotic system
>organisms live in close cooperation to the benefit of all involved.

>...in no sense can our civilization be said to fulfil the criteria
>for symbioses.

In a /partial/ sense, it can. IE sometimes people's relationships with others are FAIRLY symbiotic, other times they're NOT VERY symbiotic AT ALL. The relationship between a rapist and his victim, incidentally, is pretty much totally unsymbiotic, and check out the intense reaction triggered just by mentioning the word to a bunch of rationality-loving, educated modern westerners.

>We have constructed a hierarchy propagated through
>force to maintain the priviledge of a tiny segment of the global
>poulace much to the detriment of the rest.

Too absolutist, man. If the few have always benefited at the expense of the many, then the many should get progressively worse off as time goes by, predicting that most people in modern Britain (say) should have less food/property/freedom than most people x-hundred years ago. Erm, and I reckon most people now/here have better access to food, better medicines, better life expectancy/quality than they did in the middle ages. If the many now have more than they did back in the day, then surely they're gaining from The Deal, in which case there's at least partial symbiosis going on somewhere.

DP

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