| 2010-08-13 10:09:29
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| 10:09:29 | Lucifer | pop quiz! Is it morally acceptable to take from the rich and give to the poor? |
| 10:09:45 | Sat | might makes right. |
| 10:09:47 | MoEnzyme | actually what really sux is that I seem to have a sinus infect. With the added heat it just f'n miserable :) |
| 10:09:59 | Sat | So if the poor are strong enough to take from the rich. sure |
| 10:10:09 | Sat | (and get away with it) |
| 10:10:25 | Lucifer | I don't agree with your premise (that right makes right) |
| 10:10:25 | Sat | The rich are rich, because of thier might. |
| 10:10:58 | Lucifer | might has the upper hand and almost always gets their way |
| 10:11:09 | Sat | And if they are mighty enough they will continue to keep thier wealth |
| 10:11:12 | Sat | * Sat chuckles |
| 10:11:16 | Lucifer | but how does that make it right? |
| 10:11:36 | Sat | How is a lion eating a gazelle right? |
| 10:11:48 | Sat | It's just nature. |
| 10:11:59 | MoEnzyme | * MoEnzyme accepts that government is redistributative by its very nature. |
| 10:12:03 | Lucifer | Did the lion pay for the gazelle? |
| 10:12:13 | Lucifer | * Lucifer snorts |
| 10:12:23 | Sat | Yes. It paid by working: stalking, waiting, etc. |
| 10:12:31 | Sat | It paid by learning to hunt. |
| 10:12:38 | Lucifer | Will the lion compensate the herd? |
| 10:12:43 | Sat | Yes. |
| 10:12:55 | Sat | The lion plays an essential role of thinning out the weak |
| 10:13:01 | Sat | and forcing the herd to move |
| 10:13:18 | Sat | without the forced moving the gazeeles would over graze areasd |
| 10:13:33 | Sat | and fuck up the biosphere they live in |
| 10:13:40 | Lucifer | Anyway I agree that not all actions are right or wrong. That doesn't mean there is no such thing as morality. |
| 10:14:05 | Sat | morailty is the tool the weak use to try to gain might over those stronger than them |
| 10:14:07 | Lucifer | What happens in nature has little bearing on the ethics of wealth redistribution in human civilization |
| 10:14:26 | Sat | It's like the gazeele saying, "not fair! you snuck up on me!" |
| 10:14:40 | Sat | Humans are a part of nature. |
| 10:14:48 | Lucifer | So your argument is to go meta and invoke Satanism? |
