From: L' Ermit (lhermit@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 06 2002 - 21:01:25 MST
[Hermit]Mermaid, unless you really wish to place your great faith and
anti-occidental prejudices, on display, your posts have now descended to the 
ridiculous. I repeat. If you are allowed to select the "keys" to decode a 
supposed steganographic message, then <em>anything</em> can be found in 
<em>any</em> text.
[ETC...WILL ADDRESS THE TIRADE LATER]
[Mermaid]I have one question for you, Hermit. Have you READ the book that 
Yash referenced? Do you have any idea what it contains in substance or 
content from first hand knowledge? Please answer this before we can 
continue.
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Desperate? Yes. I generally hate to see the owner of a good mind not use it. 
When I know the person it makes it worse.
re "Vedic Mathematics". I was asked to look at the maths syllabus at MUM for 
a friend (Tbilisi State University Math ABD PhD) who had been invited here 
to teach maths, and as "Vedic Maths" forms the basis for the school maths 
courses at the Maharishi school I waded through the introduction to a 
completely spurious "Vedic History," got to the "key interpolation" bit and 
did not complete it - as I could answer the questions without doing so - it 
is self-evidently unadulterated horseshit. As Sanskrit is a late invention 
(i.e. it's grammar was developed at least 1000 years and more likely 1500 
years after the Harrapans) the insanity of the idea that the alleged 
steganographic content was placed with intent by the originators of the work 
can be seen in all its naked splendor. All that "Vedic Mathematics" consists 
of is a lot of phony history, invalid appeals to antiquity and a few 
"mental" calculation tricks - nothing that strikes me as "unique" (for the 
period or the region) - the Sumerians were way ahead in time, the 
Babylonians and Chinese in technique - and all of the key claims are 
inferred through "interpretation" rather than literally. As an aside, I 
compared the book to both the Oxford University Press and Maharishi's 
translations of the Sutras and it matched neither. So even the Sanskrit 
scholarship seems phony.
Finally, read up on the company that Tirthaji kept. Eastern "mystics" 
separating western fools from their money one and all. While this is not a 
new game, it is not a particularly convincing background for a person 
attempting to undertake a major shift in historic understanding either.
In my opinion this book doesn't make it to the starting blocks, never mind 
off them.
Hermit
PS The friend who asked me to look into it understood these issues and chose 
to teach real maths at the University of New Hampshire instead. So I know 
that it is possible for an intelligent person to grasp what I am saying. And 
as I said, I know you are not irredeemably stupid. Wake up and smell the 
air, the scent is not attar of roses but an equestrian byproduct.
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