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!Intro

Transcript / logs of first conversation between VectorFlux and VectorDeltree with ideas, could do with ideas listing and explaing.

See logs in a better format: [http://tinyurl.com/aytt]

!Logs:

Session Ident: Flux (~Flux.cov.@pc4-cove1-5-cust207.brhm.cable.ntl.com)
<Flux> hi
<Deltree> hey
<Flux> nope, sorry its not online yet
<Deltree> np
<Flux> Ive got a lot of ideas, what r ur ideas?
<Flux> get those memes out :D
<Deltree> I was thinking of something fairly simple
<Deltree> :)
<Flux> yeh I was @ 1st too :D
<Flux> it could so easily turn into a 2 hour movie lol
<Deltree> heh
<Flux> so basicly, its an intro to the Church of Virus
<Flux> rite?
<Deltree> right
<Flux> so what u thought up?
<Deltree> some religious music maybe :p
<Deltree> or no
<Deltree> still hesitating
* Flux thought up: asspirations for the future, the singularity, 'world peace' :P, meritocracy,
  left wing, big bang, evolution...
<Flux> maybe, its kinda if-e
<Flux> maybe that religious music crap, then a remix :D lol
<Flux> look @ sum prev. stuff http://virus.lucifer.com/wiki/CoVApproved
<Deltree> yeah, it fades into some virus memes
<Deltree> future yes, evolution yes
<Flux> yep
<Flux> check out this http://tinyurl.com/5gvo (I made it)
<Deltree> nice
<Flux> thanx
* Flux didnt think it was so cool
<Flux> problem was that I dont think the logo is entireley mirrored rite
<Flux> so weird rotatability...
* Deltree replays
* Flux did 2
* Deltree doesn't see anything weird
<Flux> maybe Im being weird
<Flux> ive got a pic u shud c of the logo
<Flux> brb, ill find it, again :D
<Deltree> okay :)
<Flux> bingo http://homepage.ntlworld.com/graham.stanley1/flux/wallpaper/workin-on-it/white/2.gif
<Deltree> interesting
<Flux> I remembered, I finally put it in my Fav list folder on my removable disk drive (goes
  'everywhere' with me)
<Deltree> I like the blue
<Deltree> kind of abstract
<Flux> knew u would
<Flux> yes
<Flux> imagine the bloby bits as bacteria or something, whatever worx :D
<Deltree> hehe
<Deltree> what soft do you use?
<Flux> Corel PhotoPaint
<Flux> version 9, I think
* Flux realises that 'I think' usually means 'I think, right now'
<Flux> it cud maybe rotate
<Flux> like a nice little blade thing :D
<Flux> and have the bacterial stuff grow of shrink or something
<Flux> cud maybe do that for CoV Flash intro
<Flux> but it wud hav 2 b short, small, n compressable
<Flux> well, fast loading, basicly
<Flux> what u think?
<Deltree> yes, I guess it works good
<Flux> any ideas?
<Flux> ?
<Deltree> sorry, I am kind of busy. for the singularity thing, I was thinking to show an
  exponential curve growing and all the periods and technologies appearing successively behind it
<Flux> yes, thats a great illustration
<Flux> maybe some pulsing colours,
<Flux> cool blues, whites, blacks... animated line etc
<Deltree> yeah
<Flux> would look nice
<Flux> maybe western world freedoms being plotted too
<Flux> with the amount of atheists/humanists/virians
<Flux> maybe corrolated with inteligence, time, technology,web or something, that kinda thing
<Deltree> yeah
<Deltree> cool
<Flux> maybe the big bang @ the start?
<Deltree> yeah, definitely
<Flux> if it could look photo realistic, that would rock
<Deltree> and it starts slowly
<Deltree> then accelerates
<Deltree> at the singularity, all becomes white
<Flux> yeh, thats what probably happend
<Flux> yeh, thats kinda scarey tho :D lol
<Deltree> lol
<Deltree> yeah
<Deltree> it actually IS
<Deltree> :)
<Flux> yeh
<Flux> maybe some 'electronic' grid lines
<Flux> curves
<Flux> eminating circles
<Flux> (radio comm., wired, p2p comm sys.)
<Flux> representing flow of loads of stuff, resources, data etc...
<Flux> nanotech
<Flux> it wudnt b 2 easy in flash tho 2 do the big bang realisticly
<Flux> u g2 hav a radial gradient, that in itself is easy
<Flux> (ive tried the big bang thing in flash)
<Flux> it works ok
<Flux> its fash, its just
<Deltree> you take care of this :) I'm just an amateur on flash for now
<Deltree> I work by trial/error
<Flux> me 2
<Flux> probably the same
<Deltree> ok then
<Flux> u INTP, or close?
<Flux> http://www.personalitytype.com/quiz.html
<Flux> http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html
* Deltree is checking out
<Deltree> I've seen something similar
<Flux> personality typing is cool, very usefull
<Deltree> at first sight, I guess I'm 'thinker' yeah
<Flux> im sure a meritocracy would use it somehow
<Deltree> yes, interesting page
<Flux> thinkers are like iron filelings to a magnet on CoV
<Flux> thing is not always so good with getting on with tasks as other, lesser thinkers are
<Flux> turns out if u think so much, u get smart, just run the minds 'logic program'...
<Flux> so n e way back to the task in hand
<Flux> I was thiking bout having a dialogue between a non virian, and a virian
<Flux> rite?
<Deltree> yes, it is a good idea
<Flux> through the conversation (with words fading in to colour), the font of the virian wud b
  blue
<Deltree> but we have to be careful not to make it too religious
<Flux> and the non-v. person wud have red font, fading slowly as they realise 'were cool'
<Deltree> we don't want it to look like that, for example: kinda like that:
<Deltree> http://www.rael.org/
<Flux> well, it will just b standard commercial flashness :D
<Flux> lol
<Flux> they make me laugh, maybe we'll take em over 1 day ;)
<Flux> http://www.interviewwithgod.com
<Deltree> I'm convinced there brain is infected too much with irrationality
<Flux> well, denial @ least
<Deltree> lol
<Flux> its science fact
<Flux> BBC agress too, good nuff 4 u?
<Flux> BBC Radio 4 Reith lectures
<Flux> see my old links list
<Flux> http://tinyurl.com/6anb
<Flux> check out http://www.interviewwithgod.com , good use of flash n stuff
<Deltree> yes, well done
<Deltree> nice memes :)
<Flux> yes, not too bad (for xians) :P
<Flux> still overuses times new roman tho
* Flux notices he has just seen the worse, original one
<Flux> seen a newer version
<Flux> doh
<Flux> http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com
<Flux> thats the site I meant lol
<Flux> its more classy
<Deltree> "in collaboration with: God (r)"
<Flux> :D
<Deltree> sposored by JC
<Flux> oh dear...
<Deltree> yeah the others are nicer
<Flux> yeh
<Flux> so that kinda thing, but maybe sum electronic music?
<Flux> so not maddona tho :D
<Flux> is she a capatalistic slut some something?
* Flux thinks its ok music tho :D
* Flux watches theinterviewwithgod.com
* Deltree is an ISTJ
<Flux> thats 2 differnt things from me, INTP
<Deltree> yeah
<Deltree> bbl in 30 min
<Flux> k
<Flux> :D http://www.despair.com/motivation.html
<Flux> u back?
<Deltree> I mean
<Deltree> yes
<Flux> ok
<Flux> http://www.dispair.com - wud so buy stuff from em, only
<Flux> Im skint :D
<Deltree> lol
<Flux> who says capitalism is good?
<Deltree> "inspiring them with fear"
<Flux> Bush does
* Flux pokes Bush
<Flux> :D
<Flux> Demotivators: Increasing success my lowing expectations
<Flux> *lowering :D
<Deltree> that is totally true => http://www.despair.com/flattery.html
<Flux> :D
* Flux enables TTS
* Deltree enjoys the irony
<Deltree> TTS?
<Flux> google it :D
<Flux> nah, its text to speech
<Deltree> thanks for the effort :)
<Deltree> TTS on IRC?
<Flux> u kno if the PC knew what phrases u knew, it cud scan text for stuff u dont understand,
  then google it n spider pages refering to it 4 u
<Flux> yep, speaks out IRC
<Flux> im usin mIRC (google it if u want) :D
<Deltree> muhaha
<Deltree> pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism is a very interesting science
<Flux> muhaha sounds like mu hi ha
<Deltree> I mean, disease
<Flux> it sed that really well
<Flux> where the hell did u copy that from?
<Deltree> google it
<Deltree> bleh
<Deltree> :)
<Flux> u didnt type that fast did u?
<Deltree> http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutwords/longestword
<Flux> lol ok
<Flux> bleh?
<Flux> ill google it
<Deltree> thyroparathyroidectomized is much worse than pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism which is
  quite close to radioimmunoelectrophoresis
<Flux> it says it really well u kno
<Deltree> really
<Deltree> I'm impressed
<Deltree> what TTS do you use?
<Flux> Mary
<Deltree> oh
<Flux> comes with standard MS Win XP TTS
<Flux> no it dont
<Deltree> Office?
<Flux> it comes with TextAloud
<Deltree> ok
<Flux> google it, try out TextAloud
<Flux> its very usefull for me
<Flux> maybe buy it, or crack (depeding on dosh, deservingness of company)
<Flux> its got a trial
<Flux> it can intercept clipboard stuff
<Flux> it can read txt files, copy site text to it (like news, email, e-books etc..)
<Flux> n u can save it 2 MP3
<Deltree> whil I still can read well, I won't bother with that :)
<Flux> ok
<Flux> well, least get it cause its got Mary with it
<Flux> good quality TTS engine/voice
<Deltree> yeah, their voice is close to natural
<Flux> nopaste.da.ru
<Flux> http://nopaste.da.ru
<Flux> there we go, can u put our conv. logs on there please and give me the URL?
<Deltree> you mean this conversation's log?
<Flux> yes, plz
<Deltree> http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/3849
<Flux> tar
<Flux> can u wiki yet?
<Deltree> you mean do I use wiki?
<Flux> yeh, can u use, do u use the CoV wiki
<Flux> ?
<Flux> I mean editing, 'n e 1' can read it...
<Deltree> yes
<Flux> cool, what pages u done?
<Deltree> this one :) http://virus.lucifer.com/wiki/EliezerYudkowsky
<Deltree> I need to go for tonight :( lots of studies waiting
<Flux> cool
<Deltree> I'll see you tomorrow
<Flux> k cool, l8er
<Flux> oh wait
<Flux> im from england, u?
<Deltree> Montreal, for now
<Deltree> pleased to meet you
<Flux> wheres that?
<Deltree> canada
<Deltree> are you Graham?
<Flux> ditto
<Flux> ok, Im Luke Stanley, sun of Graham
<Deltree> oaky
<Deltree> I'll see you around, luke
<Flux> k, cool, l8ers
<Flux> its Flux :D
<Deltree> I'll think about the flash pres.
<Deltree> heh
<Deltree> okay Flux
<Flux> yeh, ive put ur name up on wiki
<Deltree> ok, thanks
<Flux> http://virus.lucifer.com/wiki/ChurchOfVirus/Tasks?action=edit
<Flux> cool, l8er then
<Deltree> l8ter

!Log over

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