virus: RE: xyz drivel To be read by all

From: middletn@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com
Date: Fri Dec 27 1996 - 03:34:25 MST


XYZ,

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I am not going to personally say anything in this mail but i am going to
 quote all the people who are against your shit.  When asking for peoples
 opinion on yourself I got quite a large response and after looking 
through the Christmas mail I found the following:-

Matthew ??? mpurdon@interaccess.com -------------------------------------- Hasn't anyone taken the time to examine the processes of XYZ's own memetic functions. A virus needs a host to live on and XYZ needs your respectable and ordered e-mail list out of which to wreck havoc. Chaos doesn't just want to be chaos, it wants to break down order into Chaos By staying in communication with XYZ, you all are providing XYZ with host minds to scramble up. Why are you complaining about having to read his drible everymorning? After having read a significant amount already, I have now stopped reading any posts back and forth between XYZ. By not putting yourselves in contact with XYZ, your minds won't be available for him to fuck with. If everyone did that, XYZ would go and seek out a more hospitable climate in which to operate. Of course, he would first continue to harass our blank wall for a long time. The real test is whether or not all the rest of us would agree to this memetic diagnosis and strategy and have the strength not to look at his tauntings or else we'd share the fate of Lot's wife. It's too easy for XYZ to play the antagonizing skeptic and for you all to become a persuavise rationalist. Take the wiser path.

Drakir Jonesr@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com -------------------------------------------------- Interesting point to note, XYZ. Whenever you are refered to, in relation to the CoV, you are *never* considered one of us.

Alex Williams Thantos@decatl.alf.dec.com ------------------------------------------ Just for the record, Neil, I'd like to take my place as the first person to officially `write off' XYZ. Probably comes from an overabundance of heretical memes in my ecology, but there y'go. :)

Ken Pantheists kenpan@axionet.com ----------------------------------- Flaps wrote:

If any else has similar ideas about what XYZ has to say can they please let it be known to everyone else as it appears myself and Jonesr are the only people willing to stand up against him. ********************************************************************

I think you should be knighted by the Church of Virus.

Richard Brodie Rbrodie@brodietech.com ---------------------------------------

I've been watching XYZ's memetic experiment (conscious or not) with much enjoyment. It's no easy trick to hook some of the minds on this list! I don't think it's so much the name-calling as the easy target XYZ is setting himself (no chance he's not a "he"!) up as. It's just SO tempting to win what looks to be an easy battle with an arrogant self-righteous geek, which is how X portrays his persona. But then once you bite, he reacts in a non-standard way, showing either Level-3 consciousness or pathological lying (I'm not sure which).

In conversation with David Pape - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Think of a thought you think is bad that you agree with

Strangling XYZ.

C.T Robinson Crobin@jps.net ------------------------------

While I am new to the list, I couldn't resist the temptation to join in the frey. XYZ's posts are frequent and longwinded, in my opinion, but it is also my choice to read them.This morning I decided against it, though, and tossed them in the shitcan. (That's BritishSpeak for "recycle bin"). By antagonizing XYZ, you only ask for more of the same.

Eva ?????? eva-lise@efn.org ---------------------------------

Like others who have posted here, I object to XYZ's belligerent and superior attitude. I am always willing to argue an interesting point with someone who argues fairly (following a consistent line of reasoning, acknowledging points taken, abandoning fruitless threads when necessary, listening to my explanations and assuming that I mean to be communicating something useful by them, and re-explaining points if I don't understand them as intended the first time around). I do not perceive this to be XYZ's method. Instead I have seen XYZ sprawl across my mailbox, offering only abuse to everyone who replies with even the most polite counterarguments and questions. In addition XYZ has given inconsistent answers and arguments (one example: claiming not to accept the existence of memes, claiming to accept memes but not memetics), making productive discourse impossible because the goal keeps shifting. XYZ may be a mask for someone else, or may be a genuine new face on the list, but I don't see this as an important distinction. If someone purposefully tripped me, I wouldn't care deeply whether the person was genuinely an asshole or was merely engaging in an asshole-roleplaying exercise for the day.

All of these are true quotes from the mails over the Christmas holidays, but after searching the mail's i still think that the best quote is one said by XYZ himself in conversation with Drakir (wed 25 01:30).

Well, stop giving us meanlingless psychological banter then. ------------------------------------------------------------

If anyone feels i have misquoted their views please let me know so thing can be made right. Everyone else who is still against XYZ in a big way: I reckon we should make a pact to ignore XYZ so that he will slowly wither away and die. Leaving us the hell alone.

Flaps ----------- Neil middleton Middletn@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com ----------- The new force in Virus (sorry to the Israeli's)



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