> > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Tim Rhodes <proftim@speakeasy.org>
> > To: virus@lucifer.com
> > Subject: Re: virus: Pascal's wager
> > Reply-to: virus@lucifer.com
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, chardin wrote:
> >
> > > Tim, I haven't looked it up, lazy creature that I am, but I
> > > believe the gospels (KJV) say that Pilate asked him "What is
> > > Truth?"
> >
> > Actually you were right (I did look it up). It was Peter who was
> > asked, "Who is the Son of Man?" (Son of Man is what Jesus refered
> > to himself as. A metaphor?) by Jesus, after JC had asked, "Who do
> > the people say I am?" and Peter said, "Some say you are Elijah,
> > some say you are Moses, some say John the Baptist."
> >
> > Seems the Jews and early Christains believed in reicaration too.
> > > -Prof. Tim
> >
> >
> Tim, I (haven't looked it up for exact quote) but I believe that
> Peter was referring to a "Prophecy"--you know, one of those things
> Brett took me to the woodshed for--but it was a prophecy stating
> that
> "Elijah" would come--before the great and terrible day of the Lord.
> So there were all sort of rumors flying about. I believe Jesus
> said that John the Baptist was, in a sense, Elijah, "if you could
> receive" what he meant. But this is still a prophecy which we
> believers think will be fulfilled yet in the future. It is not
> unusual for the scriptures to have a (what I call) foreshadowing
> fulfillment of a prophecy before the actual fulfillment. John
> fulfilled this role, declaring the coming of Messiah--but this was
> not "the great and terrible day of the Lord." I do not think that
> Jesus believed in reincarnation. Elija, if you will recall, never
> died but was taken away to be with the Lord, i.e. up in a whirlwind.
> This is symbolic of the "rapturing" of the church which Paul talked
> about. But I prattle on. Suffice it to say that I do not believe
> Jesus believed in reincarnation from this scripture. Also, He said,
> "It is appointed unto man once to die, and after that the
> judgement."
>
It's me again, Tim. I need to check that last quote--that may in
fact be Paul's. Memory banks...but Jesus did not believe in
reincarnation, I don't think because he took great pains to answer the
questions about the woman married to all the different brothers...one
dies..she marries the next, etc. Who is she married to in heaven?
He said that their asking the question shows they have no understanding of what heaven is like
where their is neither marriage nor giving in marriage. CHardin