Re: virus: Pascal's wager

chardin (chardin@uabid.dom.uab.edu)
Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:39 CST+6CDT


> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tim Rhodes <proftim@speakeasy.org>
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: Re: virus: Pascal's wager
> Reply-to: virus@lucifer.com

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> On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, chardin wrote:
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> > Tim, I haven't looked it up, lazy creature that I am, but I
> > believe the gospels (KJV) say that Pilate asked him "What is
> > Truth?"
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> Actually you were right (I did look it up). It was Peter who was
> asked, "Who is the Son of Man?" (Son of Man is what Jesus refered to
> himself as. A metaphor?) by Jesus, after JC had asked, "Who do the
> people say I am?" and Peter said, "Some say you are Elijah, some say
> you are Moses, some say John the Baptist."
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> Seems the Jews and early Christains believed in reicaration too.
> > -Prof. Tim
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Tim, I (haven't looked it up for exact quote) but I believe that Peter was referring
to a "Prophecy"--you know, one of those things Brett took me to the
woodshed for--but it was a prophecy stating that
"Elijah" would come--before the great and terrible day of the
Lord. So there were all sort of rumors flying about. I
believe Jesus said that John the Baptist was, in a sense, Elijah, "if
you could receive" what he meant. But this is still a prophecy
which we believers think will be fulfilled yet in the future. It is
not unusual for the scriptures to have a (what I call) foreshadowing
fulfillment of a prophecy before the actual fulfillment. John
fulfilled this role, declaring the coming of Messiah--but this was
not "the great and terrible day of the Lord." I do not think that
Jesus believed in reincarnation. Elija, if you will recall, never
died but was taken away to be with the Lord, i.e. up in a whirlwind.
This is symbolic of the "rapturing" of the church which Paul talked
about. But I prattle on. Suffice it to say that I do not believe
Jesus believed in reincarnation from this scripture. Also, He said,
"It is appointed unto man once to die, and after that the judgement."