Re: virus: Free thought and control

Sodom (sodom@ma.ultranet.com)
Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:40:36 -0400


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Marie Foster wrote:

> chardin wrote:
>
> > Experimentation has shown that when we have a theory which is not
> > correct and we receive new information, the new information is
> seldom correcting at all, but we
> > tend to "elaborate" on an already incorrect theory. Thus, some
> > scientific theories become more and more bizarre as new information
> > is added. This is discussed at some length in Paul Watzlawick's
> book
> > "How Real is Real." I find this very interesting as I see some
> > theories in science (which I think to be incorrect) being elaborated
>
> > on more and more. The elaboration does not convince me that they
> are
> > right by any means, though the presentors think it should. Hardin
> > >
>
> I think a good example of this is the picture we get of early man
> based
> on the fossil record. The idea of evolution (change) is sound. But
> the
> conclusions that we evolved from... A B or C strikes me as amusing.
> The
> problem is that there are only some places on earth where fossils tend
>
> to be found due to weather, geography, etc. Yet I find scraps of
> assumptions in many social science texts that seem to arrive at views
> about humans based on these very imcomplete records.
>
> Perhaps that time traveling alien might find our ancient fathers to be
>
> something other than than a "Naked Ape"... with all the baggage that
> entails.
>
> I am not trying to sway anyone here. Just that this is only one
> example
> of how science *might* lead us astray.
>
> sway astray... I like the sound of that
>
> Marie

Sway astray is good, but the example could be better. Genetically we
are about 95% the same as the Chimpanzee, we are amost as close to the
other great apes (Bonobo, Gorilla, Orangatan) These species also
demonstrate similarities in social areas, emotional areas and
intellectual areas. An excellent book on our relationship with the other
great apes is "Demonic Males - Apes and the Origins of Human Violence".
The book is effectivly paleo-anthropology, but excellent reading for the
free thinker.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0395877431/8170-9506757-983761

This link will take you amazon.com, there are some reviews there.
Sodom

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Marie Foster wrote:

chardin wrote:

> Experimentation has shown that when we have a theory which is not
> correct  and we receive new information, the new information is seldom  correcting at all, but we
> tend to "elaborate" on an already incorrect theory.  Thus, some
> scientific theories become more and more bizarre as new information
> is added.    This is discussed at some length in Paul Watzlawick's  book
> "How Real is Real."  I find this very interesting as I see some
> theories in science (which I think to be incorrect) being elaborated
> on more and more.  The elaboration does not convince me that they are
> right by any means, though the presentors think it should.  Hardin
> >

I think a good example of this is the picture we get of early man based
on the fossil record.  The idea of evolution (change) is sound.  But the
conclusions that we evolved from... A B or C strikes me as amusing.  The
problem is that there are only some places on earth where fossils tend
to be found due to weather, geography, etc.  Yet I find scraps of
assumptions in many social science texts that seem to arrive at views
about humans based on these very imcomplete records.

Perhaps that time traveling alien might find our ancient fathers to be
something other than than a "Naked Ape"... with all the baggage that
entails.

I am not trying to sway anyone here.  Just that this is only one example
of how science *might* lead us astray.

sway astray... I like the sound of that

Marie

   Sway astray is good, but the example could be better. Genetically we are about 95% the same as the Chimpanzee, we are amost as close to the other great apes (Bonobo, Gorilla, Orangatan) These species also demonstrate similarities in social areas, emotional areas and intellectual areas. An excellent book on our relationship with the other great apes is "Demonic Males - Apes and the Origins of Human Violence". The book is effectivly paleo-anthropology, but excellent reading for the free thinker.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0395877431/8170-9506757-983761

This link will take you amazon.com, there are some reviews there.
Sodom
 
 
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