> ERiC wrote:
> >"Does consciousness seem intrinsically subjective to me?"
> >
> >Now here's one I can answer!: yes.  I can't verify consciousness in
> >anybody else, yet I'm sure *I* have it...
> 
> I'm not. For what that's worth.
> 
> Is a subjective sense of consciousness the thing itself? Is there a way 
> out of that?
Is Eric's a question we need to step outside of conscousness in order to
answer?  Do you need to get out of the bath to answer the question, "Am I
wet?"
-Prof. Tim