Computers and software are not people; I have written a few programs   
simulating control systems myself, and even simple mechanical systems   
exhibit chaotic behavior beyond current algorithms ability to describe   
them. Axelrod's work may be interesting, and even shed light on the   
discussion, but all I have is your interpretation of it at this point, so   
I do not choose to accept your argument until I have.
>Frankly, having any discussion about self-interest and cooperation
>without knowing intimately about Axelrod and Prisoner's Dilemma and
>basic econonomics and game theory is like having a discussion about
>quantum mechanics with someone who doesn't know what the Michaelson-
>Morley experiment or the EPR paradox or Bell's inequality are. <
I have some understanding of Prisoner's Dilemma, took a course or two in   
basic economics and have read some game theory, so you are only partially   
correct. Whether Axelrod is pertinent or not depends on someone's frame   
of reference; yours includes him because you are aware of his work, mine   
does not because I am not. Reed's original post (4/17) was about people,   
something I do have knowledge and experience with; software (and Axelrod   
in particular) was introduced (by you on 4/25) far later, after   
definitions of altruism were questioned and so forth. I do not feel it is   
pertinent, at least not yet; it appears more to me as a diversion of the   
original question, or perhaps thread drift.
To declare that someone is unqualified to participate in a discussion   
because "he hasn't read X" may well leave you talking to yourself.
At least at that point you would have fewer disagreements!<VBG!>
I will not start or participate in a flame war.
james
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