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... or "redundant self-replication".
ps... I know what I know
(Oh, and why is it that the pseudo-logical rebuttals you come-up with, Joe, repeatedly show your bias and hatred for "believers" rather than being reasoned responses or knowledgeable counter-examples?)
Brett Lane Robertson
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From: BrettMan35@webtv.net (Brett Robertson) Date sent: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:57:27 -0500 (EST) To: virus@lucifer.com Subject: Re: virus: Technology (was manifest science) Send reply to: virus@lucifer.com
> The don Juan books talk about (a) a "mirror of self reflection", and (b)
> an "internal dialogue" (Similar to the "stream of consciousness"
> suggested? Seems somewhat different than "continuous synaptic
> firing"...). Anyway, certain "tricks" allow one an experience similar
> to "breaking the mirror of self reflection" and/ or "turning off the
> internal dialogue".
>
> Paradoxically, much of the "logic" on this list (relativistic,
> subjective, interpersonal, scientific-rational, agnostic, skeptical,
> pragmatic) shows signs that the thinkers who use these kinds of thought
> processes have ALREADY broken the mirror of self reflection (in
> contrast, "faith" is an example of a "continuous" perspective-- from
> which unbroken self-reflection suggests Truth, self-evidence, certainty,
> prime cause, and necessary effect).
>
I always suspected you had to be a believer, Brettster, 'cause
you're obviously not a knower.
>
> Some of the immediate effects of breaking the chain of "synaptic
> firings" (continual revelation?) are fear, shame, co-dependence, "will"
> (force), "grace" (self-negation), emotional reasoning (addictive
> cycling), "doublethink" (ex. that one might "fight for peace", or that
> "jails secure freedoms"...), conformity, "slavery" (a work "ethic"),
> loss of "humanity" (self-mechanization), and "death"...
>
And a Puritanical believer as well! (Strains of forboding music swell
as we hear the core 'loathsome spider' passage in Johnathan
Edwards' sermon "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God"...)
>
> About *death* (which is, perhaps, symbolic-only... at first):
>
> Through external controls and acts of repression, one might become
> subjected to a reality which counters ones own self-volition, or
> life-force. The result is a subjective perspective (fantasy) which
> requires external (rather than internal) verification. Thereby, one
> becomes dependent upon others in order that one might avoid the logic
> suggested by their own projected reasoning and so avoid succumbing to
> the personal death "experience" which such logic ultimately requires.
>
> "Breaking the mirror" entails "7 years" bad luck (it is not fun...
> believe me). Seems we should strive for polishing the mirror (for now
> you see as if through a "glass", or mirror, darkly) and/ or finding a
> connection to truth and certainty.
>
Meds, Brett! Now! And stop staring into that mirror; it'll only
make you crazier (No, Brett, DON'T get between TWO of them -
Ohno, too late! He's trapped in the Infinite miasma of Recursive
Self-Reflection!)
>
> Brett Lane Robertson
> Indiana, USA
> http://www.window.to/mindrec
> MindRecreation Metaphysical Assn.
> BIO: http://members.theglobe.com/bretthay
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