indeed...from our human perspective it is all too easy and nearly universal(pardon the pun) to use the word 'universe' so as to indicate something...whether that something be of finite or infinite nature is immaterial, as the base premise of existance is an error. The word 'universe' merely describes a concept -> the absence of anything...and an absence of anything cannot be measured, and is not a thing or something.
>From: Robin Faichney <email@example.com>
>Subject: Re: virus: primal emptiness
>Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:02:55 +0100
>In message <372097F8.2E5271E9@acc-net.com>, Brickley Family
>>primal emptiness is the uncreated base-state of the universe