RE: virus: another viewpoint...

Sodom (sodom@ma.ultranet.com)
Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:30:09 -0400

When I read this, i too thought it reeked of propaganda, though I dont question the authenticity of the person writing the letter, I am sorry that they are so sheltered from the reality of the situation. As I read it, I was amazed at both the false information this person believes to be true, the incredible "pity me" attitude for acts that occured generations before this person was born, and her misunderstanding of the current rights (or last 10 years) that the Kosovars have. I sometimes think that our news is slanted, but this person is under the misguided notion that news sources like CNN are interested in anything other than ratings and money. If 12 NATO planes were shot down, that would mean more news more money - CNN would report it. I suppose when your news is state sponsored and censored, then you cannot help but be misinformed.

Goes to show the power of Phaith. This time the phaith is grounded in "nationalism". Too bad - If the US ever starts a policy of Ethnic Cleansing, I hope the rest of the world would not stand still.

Bill ROh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
> [
mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
> Of Tim Rhodes
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 7:23 PM
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: Re: virus: another viewpoint...
>
>
> Where did you get this from? It reeks of propaganda.
> Slovenia has always
> had a strong ethic identity and is a separate nation-state
> now. I find it
> hard to believe an ethnic Solvenian would be as likey to call
> the Serbians
> "my people."
>
> -Prof. Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: the great tinkerer <tinkerer@tinkerers-workshop.com>
> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 1:31 PM
> Subject: virus: another viewpoint...
>
>
> >>Forwarded - without comment. This e-mail was received
> today from a young
> >>lady
> >>who lives in Slovenia who was an exchange student who lived with us.
> >>
> >>Who knows where the truth lies?
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Myra and Bob,
> >>
> >> I feel a deep need to write to you as my friends and as
> members of the
> >> Nation who has suffered the most during the centuries.
> While I am writing
> >> this letter, the NATO planes are flying over my head
> heading towards my
> >> homeland and my people to give their love with the bombs.
> My heart and my
> >> soul are deeply hurt and I can not believe that American
> people send
> their
> >> sons to kill my parents, my friends and my people.
> >> Serbs , in their history, never atacked any country or
> nation. It has
> been
> >> the oposite. From the fifth century when the first Serbs
> came here on
> this
> >> ground, we were fighting for our existence against those
> who wanted us
> for
> >> slaves. For four hunderd years we were fighting the Turks
> and finaly we
> >> threw them out of our country in ninetheenth century. No
> one who read
> World
> >> history, musn`t forget that World War 1 started here in
> Serbia when the
> >> Serbs said "NO" to the bigest power in Europe - Austria to it`s
> ultimatum.
> >> Serbia had lost 2 million citizens in that war.
> >> In the World War II Serbia was the first and only country
> that stood up
> >> against
> >> Hitler and was very cruely punished for that. Belgrade
> was bombed. Nazi
> >> killed a 100 Serbs for one
> >> dead German. In only two days they executed 15.000 men, women and
> children
> >> only in two cities. Over a million of people were killed
> for four years
> of
> >> the war.
> >> At the end of the war , the whole Serbia was bombed by
> the Allies. The
> >> excuse was that they wanted the Germans to get out of
> Serbia, and that`s
> >>why
> >> thousands of people had to die by their bombs.The sadest
> thing is that
> the
> >> Serbs were the only nation who tried to save the Jews
> >> as much as possible. One of those Jews was Mrs. Albright
> and her family.
> >>The
> >> War
> >> caught them in Serbia on holiday. They stayed hidden by
> several Serb
> >> families
> >> for the whole war. And today, she sends them bombs with love and
> >>gratitude.
> >> And what is the guilt of the Serbs today?
> >> They have luck to have 26 other nations (minorities) to
> live with them
> >> together.
> >> They have all the rights one can imagine. I`ll mention
> some: education in
> >> their own
> >> language (primary and secondary school and University),
> newapapers and
> >> television, all their documents are written in both
> languages, and so
> on.
> >> Only a small number of etnic Albanians
> >> abused these rights for the purpose of their nacionalist
> mentors from
> >> Albania who wanted
> >> Kosovo and part of Macedonia to enlarge Albania. But
> Kosovo belongs to
> >>Serbs
> >> for 15 hunderd
> >> years. The first Serbs State was established 1000 years
> ago. Over 800
> >> Monasteries, churches
> >> and other holly buildings built centuries ago, some of
> them protected by
> >>the
> >> UNESCO are there
> >> in Kosovo. The Kosovo is Holly land for the Serbs as
> Israel for the
> Jews.
> >> Albania wants to take
> >> that from us.
> >> That wouldn´t be such an unsolved problem , if the
> Americans didnt`t see
> >> that as big oportunity for realisation of their own
> strategic plans.
> >> Yugoslavia is the only country in that region that has no NATO
> >> troops in it. The other reason is that we are orthodox and
> very close to
> >>the
> >> Russian. If they invade
> >> and occupate us , they will have an open road through Balkan to the
> Middle
> >> Asia and new Wells of Oil, and off course , they will be
> behind the back
> >>of
> >> Russia.
> >> Everything that is going on now is a big construct and a
> big lie made by
> >> American government helped
> >> by the media. CNN is the bigest and the most horrid
> factory of lies in
> the
> >> World today. On my television I can watch all the TV
> stations from Europe
> >> and some from America. CNN is the worst.
> >>
> >> The talks in Paris were a big fraud. The "so called" ageement that
> >>Albanians
> >> signed was prepared
> >> by the Americans long before the talks started and we were
> able to read
> it
> >> in one of 58 newspapers, printed in Albanian language, 10
> days before
> the
> >> talks. In that agreement Kosovo will be turn over to
> Albania in 3 years
> >> time. No Serb will sign such agreement which is giving
> their Holly Land
> to
> >> some other country.
> >>
> >> Because of our "NO" to the America , my people are being
> bombed for the
> >>last
> >> 5 days. But the American people should know that the Serbs
> will never
> >> surrender. They will fight to the last Serb.
> >> They are not afraid of Adolf Clinton (a new name in Europe for the
> American
> >> president). He is worse than Hitler and his New Oder is
> new fashisem.
> All
> >> that is written on the transparents on the demonstrations
> all over the
> >> Europe against America and a new Hitler. He can't sell
> demokracy with
> >>bombs.
> >>
> >>
> >> I shall finish now. I would like you to tell your friends
> that the truth
> >> about Serbs has a diferent face.
> >> I only hope that those monsters will come to their sences and stop
> killing
> >> inocent people. Over 30 schools were bombed until
> yesterday and many,
> many
> >> civilian houses. There are many dead and injured.
> >> And at the end , the Yugoslav defense shot down over 12 planes ,
> including
> >> the F117A stealth bomber. You have been lied about that
> all the time like
> >> about some many other things.
> >>
> >> I wish that what happend to my country, never happens to anybody.
> >>
> >> My love and best regards to you.
> >>
> >> Andrijana
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Message-ID: <000f01be4b23$a826b480$0301a8c0@siol.net>
> >>From: Mirko Golob <mirko.golob@link.si>
> >>To: myrabob@aol.com
> >>Subject: Andrijana to Myra and Bob
> >>Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:06:50 -0400
> >>MIME-Version: 1.0
> >>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0)
> >>Content-Type: text/plain;
> >> charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >>Dear Myra and Bob,
> >>
> >>I feel a deep need to write to you as my friends and as
> members of the
> >>Nation who has suffered the most during the centuries.
> While I am writing
> >>this letter, the NATO planes are flying over my head
> heading towards my
> >>homeland and my people to give their love with the bombs.
> My heart and my
> >>soul are deeply hurt and I can not believe that American
> people send their
> >>sons to kill my parents, my friends and my people.
> >>Serbs , in their history, never atacked any country or
> nation. It has
> been
> >>the oposite. From the fifth century when the first Serbs
> came here on this
> >>ground, we were fighting for our existence against those
> who wanted us for
> >>slaves. For four hunderd years we were fighting the Turks
> and finaly we
> >>threw them out of our country in ninetheenth century. No
> one who read
> World
> >>history, musn`t forget that World War 1 started here in
> Serbia when the
> >>Serbs said "NO" to the bigest power in Europe - Austria to
> it`s ultimatum.
> >>Serbia had lost 2 million citizens in that war.
> >>In the World War II Serbia was the first and only country
> that stood up
> >>against
> >>Hitler and was very cruely punished for that. Belgrade was
> bombed. Nazi
> >>killed a 100 Serbs for one
> >>dead German. In only two days they executed 15.000 men,
> women and children
> >>only in two cities. Over a million of people were killed
> for four years of
> >>the war.
> >> At the end of the war , the whole Serbia was bombed by
> the Allies. The
> >>excuse was that they wanted the Germans to get out of
> Serbia, and that`s
> why
> >>thousands of people had to die by their bombs.The sadest
> thing is that the
> >>Serbs were the only nation who tried to save the Jews
> >>as much as possible. One of those Jews was Mrs. Albright
> and her family.
> The
> >>War
> >>caught them in Serbia on holiday. They stayed hidden by several Serb
> >>families
> >>for the whole war. And today, she sends them bombs with love and
> gratitude.
> >> And what is the guilt of the Serbs today?
> >>They have luck to have 26 other nations (minorities) to
> live with them
> >>together.
> >>They have all the rights one can imagine. I`ll mention
> some: education in
> >>their own
> >>language (primary and secondary school and University),
> newapapers and
> >>television, all their documents are written in both
> languages, and so on.
> >>Only a small number of etnic Albanians
> >>abused these rights for the purpose of their nacionalist
> mentors from
> >>Albania who wanted
> >>Kosovo and part of Macedonia to enlarge Albania. But Kosovo
> belongs to
> Serbs
> >>for 15 hunderd
> >>years. The first Serbs State was established 1000 years
> ago. Over 800
> >>Monasteries, churches
> >>and other holly buildings built centuries ago, some of them
> protected by
> the
> >>UNESCO are there
> >>in Kosovo. The Kosovo is Holly land for the Serbs as
> Israel for the Jews.
> >>Albania wants to take
> >>that from us.
> >>That wouldn´t be such an unsolved problem , if the
> Americans didnt`t see
> >>that as big oportunity for realisation of their own strategic plans.
> >>Yugoslavia is the only country in that region that has no NATO
> >>troops in it. The other reason is that we are orthodox and
> very close to
> the
> >>Russian. If they invade
> >>and occupate us , they will have an open road through
> Balkan to the Middle
> >>Asia and new Wells of Oil, and off course , they will be
> behind the back
> of
> >>Russia.
> >>Everything that is going on now is a big construct and a
> big lie made by
> >>American government helped
> >>by the media. CNN is the bigest and the most horrid factory
> of lies in the
> >>World today. On my television I can watch all the TV
> stations from Europe
> >>and some from America. CNN is the worst.
> >>
> >>The talks in Paris were a big fraud. The "so called" ageement that
> Albanians
> >>signed was prepared
> >>by the Americans long before the talks started and we were
> able to read it
> >>in one of 58 newspapers, printed in Albanian language, 10
> days before the
> >>talks. In that agreement Kosovo will be turn over to
> Albania in 3 years
> >>time. No Serb will sign such agreement which is giving
> their Holly Land to
> >>some other country.
> >>
> >>Because of our "NO" to the America , my people are being
> bombed for the
> last
> >>5 days. But the American people should know that the Serbs
> will never
> >>surrender. They will fight to the last Serb.
> >>They are not afraid of Adolf Clinton (a new name in Europe for the
> American
> >>president). He is worse than Hitler and his New Oder is
> new fashisem. All
> >>that is written on the transparents on the demonstrations
> all over the
> >>Europe against America and a new Hitler. He can't sell
> demokracy with
> bombs.
> >>
> >>
> >>I shall finish now. I would like you to tell your friends
> that the truth
> >>about Serbs has a diferent face.
> >>I only hope that those monsters will come to their sences
> and stop killing
> >>inocent people. Over 30 schools were bombed until yesterday
> and many, many
> >>civilian houses. There are many dead and injured.
> >>And at the end , the Yugoslav defense shot down over 12
> planes , including
> >>the F117A stealth bomber. You have been lied about that all
> the time like
> >>about some many other things.
> >>
> >>I wish that what happend to my country, never happens to anybody.
> >>
> >>My love and best regards to you.
> >>
> >>Andrijana
> >tinkerer@tinkerers-workshop.com
> >http://www.tinkerers-workshop.com/
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> > - order my cd!!!
> >
>