| 2006-08-27 11:00:09
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| 11:00:09 | Sat | gah! |
| 11:00:17 | Sat | * Sat begins writing names down |
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| 11:00:41 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Fine, we'll start without them |
| 11:00:55 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Thanks for coming everyone (Sat) |
| 11:01:05 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: The topic today is Objective Morality |
| 11:01:06 | Sat | ?me swells to a legion |
| 11:01:33 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Does objective morality exist, or does moral subjectivism hold |
| 11:01:40 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: ? |
| 11:02:02 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: If morals are objective, how do we know? |
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| 11:02:11 | Sat | according to the venerable Wikipedia, "Moral objectivism is the position that certain acts are objectively right or wrong, independent of human opinion." |
| 11:02:27 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: If morals are subjective, how do we decide between them, and interact between different moral systems? |
| 11:02:48 | SLacker | Giulio Perhaps has arrived |
| 11:02:52 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow welcomes Giulio |
| 11:03:03 | SLacker | Giulio Perhaps: hi |
| 11:03:06 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: We just started a couple minutes ago |
| 11:03:18 | Sat | Well myself I take issue with the notion that morals exists sperate from a subject or a perciever. |
| 11:03:22 | Sat | In this case humans. |
| 11:03:27 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: First, let's state out positions |
| 11:04:00 | Sat | * Sat sides with moral relativism or nihilism |
| 11:04:17 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: I'll argue for moral objectivism |
| 11:04:23 | SLacker | Giulio Perhaps: so does giulio (for the moral relativism part) |
| 11:04:31 | SLacker | Giulio Perhaps: never liked word nihilism |
| 11:04:43 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Moral nihilism is different again |
| 11:04:56 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: iirc |
| 11:05:23 | Sat | Ok Lucifer feel free to state how you think there's an objective morality and how we can come to know it. |
| 11:05:27 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Morals obviously assume moral agents |
| 11:05:49 | SLacker | Giulio Perhaps: there is no rational reasons why morality of intelligent slugs or AIs must necessarily resemble one or another human moral system |
| 11:05:53 | SLacker | Lucifer Darrow: Moral agents are any autonomous agents that make moral choices |
