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virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
« on: 2004-09-13 09:54:22 »
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Something You Can't Do in California...

Sep 13, 8:40 am ET

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Having sex with corpses is now officially
illegal in California after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill
barring necrophilia, a spokeswoman said on Friday.

The new legislation marks the culmination of a two-year drive to outlaw
necrophilia in the state and will help prosecutors who have been stymied
by the lack of an official ban on the practice, according to experts.

"Nobody knows the full extent of the problem. ... But a handful of
instances over the past decade is frequent enough to have a bill
concerning it," said Tyler Ochoa, a professor at Santa Clara University
School of Law who has studied California cases involving allegations of
necrophilia.

"Prosecutors didn't have anything to charge these people with other than
breaking and entering. But if they worked in a mortuary in the first
place, prosecutors couldn't even charge them with that," Ochoa said.

The state's first attempt to outlaw necrophilia, in response to a case
of a man charged with having sex with the corpse of a 4-year-old girl in
Southern California, stalled last year in a legislative committee.

Lawmakers revived the bill this year after an unsuccessful prosecution
of a man found in a San Francisco funeral home drunk and passed out on
top of an elderly woman's corpse.

The new law makes sex with a corpse a felony punishable by up to eight
years in prison.
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RE: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
« Reply #1 on: 2004-09-13 14:46:29 »
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...while necrophilia seems to be a rather disturbing activity, i would have
a hard time sentencing an otherwise decent and honest person to EIGHT years
in prison for such a thing.  perhaps some councilling or some such thing,
but eight years?  that's pretty much the good part of anyones life.  sure
it's a disturbing interest, but who is it hurting? the answer is NO
ONE...therefore why remove the individual from society at large?  at the
very least, one must consider that the person had suitable socialization to
NOT force themselves upon living people.  of course...i really cant see a
politician standing up and saying , "let's remove this ban!".  i certainly
hope the violated lumps of inanimate flesh are happy : )



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To: virus <virus@lucifer.com>
Subject: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:54:22 -0500

Something You Can't Do in California...

Sep 13, 8:40 am ET

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Having sex with corpses is now officially illegal
in California after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill barring
necrophilia, a spokeswoman said on Friday.

The new legislation marks the culmination of a two-year drive to outlaw
necrophilia in the state and will help prosecutors who have been stymied by
the lack of an official ban on the practice, according to experts.

"Nobody knows the full extent of the problem. ... But a handful of instances
over the past decade is frequent enough to have a bill concerning it," said
Tyler Ochoa, a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law who has
studied California cases involving allegations of necrophilia.

"Prosecutors didn't have anything to charge these people with other than
breaking and entering. But if they worked in a mortuary in the first place,
prosecutors couldn't even charge them with that," Ochoa said.

The state's first attempt to outlaw necrophilia, in response to a case of a
man charged with having sex with the corpse of a 4-year-old girl in Southern
California, stalled last year in a legislative committee.

Lawmakers revived the bill this year after an unsuccessful prosecution of a
man found in a San Francisco funeral home drunk and passed out on top of an
elderly woman's corpse.

The new law makes sex with a corpse a felony punishable by up to eight years
in prison.
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RE: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
« Reply #2 on: 2004-09-14 18:17:18 »
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I was thinking perhaps necrophilia is a good thing.  I mean nobody gets
pregnant, and no bad memories for anyone involved.  Certainly the corpse
has no concern about contracting venereal diseases.  And also, what about
that spouse or lover who just can't quite let go?  Are we really going to
allow them to be prosecuted and imprisoned?  Must we assume that an act of
necrophilia cannot be an act of love?

-Jake

> [Original Message]
> From: Dr Sebby <drsebby@hotmail.com>
> To: <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: 09/13/2004 11:46:52 AM
> Subject: RE: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
>
> ....while necrophilia seems to be a rather disturbing activity, i would
have
> a hard time sentencing an otherwise decent and honest person to EIGHT
years
> in prison for such a thing.  perhaps some councilling or some such thing,
> but eight years?  that's pretty much the good part of anyones life.  sure
> it's a disturbing interest, but who is it hurting? the answer is NO
> ONE...therefore why remove the individual from society at large?  at the
> very least, one must consider that the person had suitable socialization
to
> NOT force themselves upon living people.  of course...i really cant see a
> politician standing up and saying , "let's remove this ban!".  i
certainly
> hope the violated lumps of inanimate flesh are happy : )
>
>
>
> DrSebby.
> "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
>
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Walter Watts <wlwatts@cox.net>
> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
> To: virus <virus@lucifer.com>
> Subject: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:54:22 -0500
>
> Something You Can't Do in California...
>
> Sep 13, 8:40 am ET
>
> SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Having sex with corpses is now officially
illegal
> in California after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill barring
> necrophilia, a spokeswoman said on Friday.
>
> The new legislation marks the culmination of a two-year drive to outlaw
> necrophilia in the state and will help prosecutors who have been stymied
by
> the lack of an official ban on the practice, according to experts.
>
> "Nobody knows the full extent of the problem. ... But a handful of
instances
> over the past decade is frequent enough to have a bill concerning it,"
said
> Tyler Ochoa, a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law who has
> studied California cases involving allegations of necrophilia.
>
> "Prosecutors didn't have anything to charge these people with other than
> breaking and entering. But if they worked in a mortuary in the first
place,
> prosecutors couldn't even charge them with that," Ochoa said.
>
> The state's first attempt to outlaw necrophilia, in response to a case of
a
> man charged with having sex with the corpse of a 4-year-old girl in
Southern
> California, stalled last year in a legislative committee.
>
> Lawmakers revived the bill this year after an unsuccessful prosecution of
a
> man found in a San Francisco funeral home drunk and passed out on top of
an
> elderly woman's corpse.
>
> The new law makes sex with a corpse a felony punishable by up to eight
years
> in prison.
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RE: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
« Reply #3 on: 2004-09-14 19:24:41 »
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Jake Sapiens wrote: Must we assume that an act of
necrophilia cannot be an act of love?
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Hmm . . . unrequited love perhaps.

BTW: I don’t suppose anyone knows what the laws on necrophilia are here in Iowa?  (It’s not for me—it’s for a friend.)
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RE: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
« Reply #4 on: 2004-09-15 02:40:43 »
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Jake Sapiens
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:17 AM

I was thinking perhaps necrophilia is a good thing.  I mean nobody gets
pregnant, and no bad memories for anyone involved.  Certainly the corpse
has no concern about contracting venereal diseases.  And also, what
about
that spouse or lover who just can't quite let go?  Are we really going
to
allow them to be prosecuted and imprisoned?  Must we assume that an act
of
necrophilia cannot be an act of love?

[Blunderov] 'One legend states that King Herod killed his wife and then
had sex with her for seven more years.'

More, probably, than you ever really wanted to know about necrophiles is
to be found at
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/necrophiles/necro_4
.html?sect=1

'Von Krafft-Ebing believed that necrophilia, while perverse, might be
simply a matter of having no hindrances to sexual satisfaction. Perfect
subjugation is itself erotic for some people.'

Seriously though: Isn't there, at least in theory, a public health issue
at stake (if that's the right word) here? Who knows what horrible
infections might emanate from putrefying flesh?

(I wonder if the practice of burial as opposed to cremation does not
require serious reappraisal. For one thing, it takes up a lot of real
estate. Here in SA, we are running out of space in cemeteries due to the
AIDS epidemic.)

Best Regards.





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Re: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
« Reply #5 on: 2004-09-15 15:23:00 »
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Jake Sapiens wrote:

>I was thinking perhaps necrophilia is a good thing.  I mean nobody gets
>pregnant, and no bad memories for anyone involved.  Certainly the corpse
>has no concern about contracting venereal diseases.  And also, what about
>that spouse or lover who just can't quite let go?  Are we really going to
>allow them to be prosecuted and imprisoned?  Must we assume that an act of
>necrophilia cannot be an act of love?
>
>-Jake
>

>
>>[Original Message]
>>From: Dr Sebby <drsebby@hotmail.com>
>>To: <virus@lucifer.com>
>>Date: 09/13/2004 11:46:52 AM
>>Subject: RE: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
>>
>>....while necrophilia seems to be a rather disturbing activity, i would
>>   
>>
>have

>
>>a hard time sentencing an otherwise decent and honest person to EIGHT
>>   
>>
>years

>
>>in prison for such a thing.  perhaps some councilling or some such thing,
>>but eight years?  that's pretty much the good part of anyones life.  sure
>>it's a disturbing interest, but who is it hurting? the answer is NO
>>ONE...therefore why remove the individual from society at large?  at the
>>very least, one must consider that the person had suitable socialization
>>   
>>
>to

>
>>NOT force themselves upon living people.  of course...i really cant see a
>>politician standing up and saying , "let's remove this ban!".  i
>>   
>>
>certainly

>
>>hope the violated lumps of inanimate flesh are happy : )
>>
>>
>>
>>DrSebby.
>>"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: Walter Watts <wlwatts@cox.net>
>>Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
>>To: virus <virus@lucifer.com>
>>Subject: virus: Something You Can't Do in California...
>>Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:54:22 -0500
>>
>>Something You Can't Do in California...
>>
>>Sep 13, 8:40 am ET
>>
>>SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Having sex with corpses is now officially
>>   
>>
>illegal

>
>>in California after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill barring
>>necrophilia, a spokeswoman said on Friday.
>>
>>The new legislation marks the culmination of a two-year drive to outlaw
>>necrophilia in the state and will help prosecutors who have been stymied
>>   
>>
>by

>
>>the lack of an official ban on the practice, according to experts.
>>
>>"Nobody knows the full extent of the problem. ... But a handful of
>>   
>>
>instances

>
>>over the past decade is frequent enough to have a bill concerning it,"
>>   
>>
>said

>
>>Tyler Ochoa, a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law who has
>>studied California cases involving allegations of necrophilia.
>>
>>"Prosecutors didn't have anything to charge these people with other than
>>breaking and entering. But if they worked in a mortuary in the first
>>   
>>
>place,

>
>>prosecutors couldn't even charge them with that," Ochoa said.
>>
>>The state's first attempt to outlaw necrophilia, in response to a case of
>>   
>>
>a

>
>>man charged with having sex with the corpse of a 4-year-old girl in
>>   
>>
>Southern

>
>>California, stalled last year in a legislative committee.
>>
>>Lawmakers revived the bill this year after an unsuccessful prosecution of
>>   
>>
>a

>
>>man found in a San Francisco funeral home drunk and passed out on top of
>>   
>>
>an

>
>>elderly woman's corpse.
>>
>>The new law makes sex with a corpse a felony punishable by up to eight
>>   
>>
>years

>
>>in prison.
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