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RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
« Reply #15 on: 2004-09-07 10:03:00 » |
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NO! NO! NO! PLEASE DR.SEBBY FOR THE LOVE OF VIRUS, DO NOT START A FLAME WAR! PLEASE JOE FOR THE LOVE OF VIRUS, DO NOT LET HIM BAIT YOU!
Dr. Sebby as of this moment is right next to Joe Dees on my ratings. Dr. Sebby should receive two weeks banishment for egregiously violating the ban on this topic and provoking the bull to rampage through the china shop. And if Joe rises above it and holds his tongue, we should award him the Laurel Wreath of Virus and I will personally go in and raise Joe's rating.
-Matt
>Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 14:18:02 +0200
>From: "Dr Sebby" <drsebby@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
>....by the way...did anyone catch the amazingly brazen bs statement of laura
>bush at the RNC saying something to the effect of; "i now introduce the
>first president in the history of the united states to permit stem-cell
>research...." ? of course they realize that the vast majority of
>american morons wont realize that the option has never existed for any other
>president. how do they have the balls to attempt to use an issue which
>their ignorant beliefs and bush's legislation have all but shut down, to
>promote themselves?~!!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! shit like this
>convinces me that i am NOT a partisan fanatic. JOE DEES???....please try to
>defend this statement by laura bush, i await your response.
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Re: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
« Reply #16 on: 2004-09-07 12:31:21 » |
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> Dr. Sebby as of this moment is right next to Joe Dees on my ratings. Dr.
Sebby should receive two weeks banishment for egregiously violating the ban
on this topic and provoking the bull to rampage through the china shop.
I'm not aware of any ban on the topic of stem cell research.
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RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
« Reply #17 on: 2004-09-07 16:11:03 » |
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[Mermaid]when i build my house..it will have a central courtyard..with the skies
above..and three floors up...and it will be made of brick, concrete and
good old cement! any element of nature is welcome through the
hole....its an open invitation!
[Blunderov] Where will this very pleasant sounding design be
implemented? Not, I hope, on the Florida Keys. Ever read the novel
'Hurricane' (John D MacDonald ISBN: B0000CJTQ7)?
[Mermaid]Been through it all..hurricanes, cyclones, floods..altho' i am not sure its anything remotely similiar to these fearful shows they put up in the northern american continent..
re the house with the courtyard..its very similar to the middle eastern style courtyard houses..in rajasthan, they are called 'havelis'...actually, in the good old days, they were meant to seperate the womenfolk from the menfolk...the men congregate in the ground floor with the women on the first level...seperated and segregated..they can witness whatever is happening in the courtyard...despite that, i find the design charming...a few days ago, i heard a fascinating account from an elderly woman...something about her stay in one of the middle eastern countries...when she had to deal with swarms of locusts and how it would get all over you by the time she managed to skirt the courtyard to go from one room to another..and then she added..."the neighbours' arab servant will be there soon after to scoop up the locusts into a sack"..then she looked thoughtful for a moment and eyed me warily..then she added, "they are delicious, you know...they make something out of it..roasted or something...he'd pick them up and make a meal out of it."...locusts, nature too...so yea...rain, sunshine, wind are all welcome...even locusts and frogs...as long as i have hired help to clean up..and oh...a french chef to make something good out of the frogs' legs...
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RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
« Reply #18 on: 2004-09-08 09:57:33 » |
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David,
not stem cell research, but the subject of partisan presidential politics. I thought that was banned. My mistake.
We are experiencing a wonderful blissful lull right now, in which we go back to being a forum about memetically engineered nontheistic religion. When somebody tries to start a flame war on topics that the members obviously hate each other about and seperate from each other over, he's wrecking the place. If attempting to bring an end to the Church of Virus is not an actionable offense, I don't know what is.
-Matt
>Subject: RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
>NO! NO! NO! PLEASE DR.SEBBY FOR THE LOVE OF VIRUS, DO NOT START A FLAME WAR! PLEASE JOE FOR THE LOVE OF VIRUS, DO NOT LET HIM BAIT YOU!
>Dr. Sebby as of this moment is right next to Joe Dees on my ratings. Dr. Sebby should receive two weeks banishment for egregiously violating the ban on this topic and provoking the bull to rampage through the china shop. And if Joe rises above it and holds his tongue, we should award him the Laurel Wreath of Virus and I will personally go in and raise Joe's rating.
>- -Matt
>>Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 14:18:02 +0200
>>From: "Dr Sebby" <drsebby@hotmail.com>
>>Subject: RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
>>....by the way...did anyone catch the amazingly brazen bs statement of laura
>>bush at the RNC saying something to the effect of; "i now introduce the
>>first president in the history of the united states to permit stem-cell
>>research...." ? of course they realize that the vast majority of
>>american morons wont realize that the option has never existed for any other
>>president. how do they have the balls to attempt to use an issue which
>>their ignorant beliefs and bush's legislation have all but shut down, to
>>promote themselves?~!!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! shit like this
>>convinces me that i am NOT a partisan fanatic. JOE DEES???....please try to
>>defend this statement by laura bush, i await your response.
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>Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:31:21 -0400
>From: David McFadzean <david@ideoware.com>
>Subject: Re: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
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>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Arnold" <mattarn@123.net>
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>> Dr. Sebby as of this moment is right next to Joe Dees on my ratings. Dr.
>Sebby should receive two weeks banishment for egregiously violating the ban
>on this topic and provoking the bull to rampage through the china shop.
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>I'm not aware of any ban on the topic of stem cell research.
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>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:21:18 -0600
>From: "David Lucifer" <david@lucifer.com>
>Subject: virus: weekly chat: foundations of civilization
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>Inspired by Beneficientor's very interesting thread on Jurisprudence (see http://tinyurl.com/4st7x), tonight's chat will be on political theory, the social contract and the foundations of civilization. See you on #virus at 8pm EST.
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>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:11:04 -0600
>From: "Mermaid" <hidden@lucifer.com>
>Subject: RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
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>[Mermaid]when i build my house..it will have a central courtyard..with the skies
>above..and three floors up...and it will be made of brick, concrete and
>good old cement! any element of nature is welcome through the
>hole....its an open invitation!
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>[Blunderov] Where will this very pleasant sounding design be
>implemented? Not, I hope, on the Florida Keys. Ever read the novel
>'Hurricane' (John D MacDonald ISBN: B0000CJTQ7)?
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>[Mermaid]Been through it all..hurricanes, cyclones, floods..altho' i am not sure its anything remotely similiar to these fearful shows they put up in the northern american continent..
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>re the house with the courtyard..its very similar to the middle eastern style courtyard houses..in rajasthan, they are called 'havelis'...actually, in the good old days, they were meant to seperate the womenfolk from the menfolk...the men congregate in the ground floor with the women on the first level...seperated and segregated..they can witness whatever is happening in the courtyard...despite that, i find the design charming...a few days ago, i heard a fascinating account from an elderly woman...something about her stay in one of the middle eastern countries...when she had to deal with swarms of locusts and how it would get all over you by the time she managed to skirt the courtyard to go from one room to another..and then she added..."the neighbours' arab servant will be there soon after to scoop up the locusts into a sack"..then she looked thoughtful for a moment and eyed me warily..then she added, "they are delicious, you know...they make something out of it..roasted o!
r!
> something...he'd pick them up and make a meal out of it."...locusts, nature too...so yea...rain, sunshine, wind are all welcome...even locusts and frogs...as long as i have hired help to clean up..and oh...a french chef to make something good out of the frogs' legs...
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RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
« Reply #19 on: 2004-09-08 11:37:53 » |
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...wow. servant or not, if i could find women as adaptable as this, i would
be a happy boy  oh, that's right... they dont really exist here in the
USA...only princesses searching for crowns. present company excluded, (as
is generally always with our rarified virian women:) of course.
...btw...i have never seen a locust swarm, but they sound extremely
revolting...it would take a day at least to get used to.
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mermaid" <hidden@lucifer.com>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:11:04 -0600
[Mermaid]when i build my house..it will have a central courtyard..with the
skies
above..and three floors up...and it will be made of brick, concrete and
good old cement! any element of nature is welcome through the
hole....its an open invitation!
[Blunderov] Where will this very pleasant sounding design be
implemented? Not, I hope, on the Florida Keys. Ever read the novel
'Hurricane' (John D MacDonald ISBN: B0000CJTQ7)?
[Mermaid]Been through it all..hurricanes, cyclones, floods..altho' i am not
sure its anything remotely similiar to these fearful shows they put up in
the northern american continent..
re the house with the courtyard..its very similar to the middle eastern
style courtyard houses..in rajasthan, they are called 'havelis'...actually,
in the good old days, they were meant to seperate the womenfolk from the
menfolk...the men congregate in the ground floor with the women on the first
level...seperated and segregated..they can witness whatever is happening in
the courtyard...despite that, i find the design charming...a few days ago, i
heard a fascinating account from an elderly woman...something about her stay
in one of the middle eastern countries...when she had to deal with swarms of
locusts and how it would get all over you by the time she managed to skirt
the courtyard to go from one room to another..and then she added..."the
neighbours' arab servant will be there soon after to scoop up the locusts
into a sack"..then she looked thoughtful for a moment and eyed me
warily..then she added, "they are delicious, you know...they make something
out of it..roasted or!
something...he'd pick them up and make a meal out of it."...locusts,
nature too...so yea...rain, sunshine, wind are all welcome...even locusts
and frogs...as long as i have hired help to clean up..and oh...a french chef
to make something good out of the frogs' legs...
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RE: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
« Reply #20 on: 2004-09-12 04:42:31 » |
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Mermaid
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:11 PM
[Mermaid]Been through it all..hurricanes, cyclones, floods..altho' i am
not sure its anything remotely similiar to these fearful shows they put
up in the northern american continent..
[Blunderov] Even by N. American standards it looks like Ivan is
something special.
<snip>
Hurricane Ivan upgraded to Category 5 storm
Storm capable of catastrophic damage as it aims for Caymans
The Associated Press
Updated: 3:01 a.m. ET Sept. 12, 2004BULL BAY, Jamaica - Hurricane Ivan
strengthened to a rare Category 5 storm capable of catastrophic damage,
leaving Jamaica and aiming for the Cayman Islands with winds reaching
165 mph, the U.S. National Hurricane Center said.
Ivan has killed 56 people across the Caribbean so far this week,
including 34 in Grenada and 11 in Jamaica.
Millions more people are in its path, with Ivan projected to go between
the Cayman Islands, make a direct hit on Cuba and then either move into
the Gulf of Mexico or hit South Florida. </snip>
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5927015/
[Blunderov] There is a slide show on this page. Never mind taking the
just roofs of houses, Ivan is tearing down brick walls!
Here's hoping it wanders off out to sea without making landfall anywhere
else.
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I will be cancelling a trip soon due to Ivan
« Reply #21 on: 2004-09-12 17:31:15 » |
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I live in New Orleans, LA. I am supposed to spend much of next week at a catfish plant north of Meridian, MS, but I can't go while Ivan is dithering about this turn it's supposed to take. It's not a high probability but Tuesday morning I might find myself furiously tossing everything that will fit into my van and running for my life. I can't afford to be 250 miles away when Ivan decides to lurch to the west and hit my home. My wife can't drive the van, and we would lose many more possessions and pets if she had to flee in the car she can drive.
She also wouldn't be able to put up the boards (which I've already acquired and cut to size just in case) for the windows. She might be able to get a neighbor to help, but then again, she might not.
Of course the thing about hurricanes in particular is that one person's good news is another person's bad news. It would be very bad if Ivan had come straight up the Florida peninsula. But it also doesn't seem right to be wishing the disaster upon places like Gulfport or Cameron Parish just because they're less densely populated than New Orleans, Pensacola, or Tampa.
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Re: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
« Reply #22 on: 2004-09-16 12:10:10 » |
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[rhinoceros] Talking of hurricanes, the following was mentioned in
#virus a few days ago:
Groups work on schemes to stop hurricanes
Cures include fans, icebergs, coating ocean with olive oil
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5988890
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - Amateur hurricane-busters have come up with any
number of crackpot ideas to spare Florida from ferocious storms. Among
them: blowing hurricanes away with giant fans or blowing them up with
nuclear warheads.
Even the federal government got into the act, with three decades of
ill-fated research called "Project Stormfury" before shelving the idea
of weather modification in the 1980s.
But dozens of ideas — part hope, part fantasy — continue to crop up
among weather wonks, Internet bloggers and others who think they have
come up with a way to spare coastal residents the misery of hurricanes.
Suggestions have included coating the surface of the water with olive
oil; towing an iceberg down to Florida to cool down the water
temperature; or building large fans on the coast to blow away
approaching storms.
"And then there was a guy who called and said he could pray them away,"
said Hugh Willoughby, a research professor with the International
Hurricane Center at Florida International University.
By far the most outlandish proposal, and one of the most recurrent, was
the idea to use a nuclear warhead to blow a hurricane out of the water.
"Hurricanes are bad enough without being radioactive," Willoughby said.
"Put that genie back in the bottle. Nuclear weapons are more dangerous
than hurricanes."
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[rhinoceros] Here is something for the number-crunching members of our
congregation from the MIT Tech Review:
Deflecting Hurricanes
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/blog.asp?blogID=1570&trk=nl
<snip>
Needless to say, all are fairly iffy, because hurricanes pack a real
wallop: according to NOAA the total kinetic energy of a spinning
hurricane is about a trillion watts, with about 100 trillion watts
released through cloud and rain formation. Note that 1 kiloton of TNT
(the Hiroshima bomb was roughly 15 kilotons) generates about one
trillion joules of energy—that is, about as much as a hurricane
generates every second. So you begin to understand the scale of the
problem, and the futility of the proposed solutions.
NOAA - How much energy does a hurricane release?
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/D7.html
energy calculations for asteroid impacts, tsunamis etc.
http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena/user/g/o/goodmanj/Public/madsci/907545968.As.r.html
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Re: virus: Some Hurricane Stuff
« Reply #23 on: 2004-09-16 16:47:56 » |
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I thought Edward Teller was dead. 
Walter
rhinoceros wrote:
> <snip>
> By far the most outlandish proposal, and one of the most recurrent,
> was the idea to use a nuclear warhead to blow a hurricane out of the
> water.
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> "Hurricanes are bad enough without being radioactive," Willoughby
> said. "Put that genie back in the bottle. Nuclear weapons are more
> dangerous than hurricanes."
> <snip>
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