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« on: 2003-08-17 16:25:03 »
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  Joe Dees shared the following:

 

  "Another broad aim is to increase energy supplies from diverse

  sources; from oil and gas, renewables, coal, hydro and nuclear.
This

  is the kind of balanced approach we think is essential if we're
going

  to meet the country's energy needs down the road and take care of
many

  of our other concerns, especially with respect to the environment."
--

  Vice President Dick Cheney, U.S. Energy Association Efficiency
Forum

  Washington, D.C., June 13, 2001"

 

  A really entertaining piece of hypocrisy.How interesting to see
that

  you value this Virian sin in your so-called "prophet", Joe. Do you
have

  any more examples of this kind of banal sinful behavior which you
want

  to offer for the heroic charge it imbues you with?Feel free to keep
to

  yourself next time.

 

[Joe2] Actually, I made no comment upon Cheney's connections with

Halliburton, but I do note that a veterinarian would not be in a position


of knowledge with respect to power grids, and further note that not only


dod Cheney predict the problems that the northeast power grid recently


suffered, but also if the private companies who own it had followed his


advice and built better safeguards and redundancy into the system, the


entire travesty might well have been averted.



[Jake2] Actually you ONLY commented on Cheney as a prophet (re subj
line) when you shared this. The rest of it was a simple cut and paste, as
you rarely speak or write for yourself competently much anymore these
days.  And the above excerpt had nothing to do with power grids.  Keep
up with the conversation, Joe.  I'm tired talking to the new
memebot-Joe.  Cheney didn't exactly invite any environmentalists to his
secret smoked filled room meetings right before he and his Enron friends
decided to fuck up the west coast power for his personal financial gain.
(hypocrisy)  But Ken Lay was certainly very welcome.  So does this man
speak for you now, Joe?  A prophet . . . I see.  You must volunteer
for minionhood rather easily.  I suppose you can join Ken Lay and his other
disciples, and start a real religious crusade to put the whole country (minus
Texas) in the dark.  There could be some real money in that kind of
piracy.  I hear that a lot of former Arthur Anderson employees can
help y'all with the accounting.  They don't seem to be good for any
other kind of honest accounting these days and can probably use the work,
criminal though it may be.  Whatever sort of expertise Cheney may have in
power grids, he obviously hasn't exercised it to actually create anything
worthwhile, except to show that he is capable of turning off the power when he
really wants to leave liberals who will never vote for him in the
dark.  Maybe if Florida doesn't look like it is going their way in the next
election, they can turn off the power there too, just in case those aging
Floridians can't get with new authoritarian program.





  Love,

 

  -Jake

 

 



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« Reply #2 on: 2003-08-17 16:56:53 »
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Jake stop posting crap to the list esp. those "I'm a spam thread" threads.
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« Reply #3 on: 2003-08-17 17:40:32 »
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I submit that you are wrong in that this is not an insult to you, your
mother, your family, or your pets but rather a criticism of your behavior
on this list.  You may very well be a fine person when you aren't acting
like Dick Cheney's memebot.  I accept your repasting again (since you seem
incapable of making any sense on your own today) for completeness the first part
of your originally pasted unoriginal quote.  The full inspired passage from
your new hero goes like this.




"The report we issued last month presented more than 100

recommendations covering virtually the entire range of concerns

that face the American people. One of the concerns, obviously, is

the aging power grid the growing problem that we have in getting

electricity from the power plant to the light switch. It's clear that


we must upgrade and expand the power grid. If we put more

connections in place, we'll go a long way towards avoiding future

blackouts. Another broad aim is to increase energy supplies from

diverse sources; from oil and gas, renewables, coal, hydro and

nuclear. This is the kind of balanced approach we think is

essential if we're going to meet the country's energy needs down

the road and take care of many of our other concerns, ESPECIALLY


WITH RESPECT TO THE ENVIRONMENT"." -- Vice President Dick Cheney,

U.S. Energy Association Efficiency Forum Washington, D.C.,

June 13, 2001



---



the caps emphasis was my own to point out some hypocrisy which you
seem to be avoiding.  I know that criticizing your new hero can seem
painful to you Joe, but the sheriff can't protect you on that one, and I assume
he probably tell the difference.  If you act like a memebot, and we
can't point out instances where you do so, then the entire CoV lexicon is truly
meaningless, and I can't imagine that anyone relevant to the decision to create
intended the sheriff's position to operate this way.  If you can't
play the game honestly, maybe you should try quitting, Joe.  For
your own mental health if nothing else.  You obviously seem incapable
of engaging in any meaningful debate.  In any case, if I really am
insulting you (as you imagine), I invite you to ignore me and not respond,
especially on the public list, as this only makes problems worse.  You seem
to have a really ugly experiences with this problem.  Didn't your mother
ever teach you not to run with scissors, and other good lessons like that? 
I'm sure she did, you probably just didn't really listen.  It's never too
late to learn, Joe.  Good luck.



Love,



-Jake



Joe whined:




I submit this post by Jake Sapiens as an example of an insult to me

personally (re: memebot), the kind of thing that our new sheriff

supposedly forbade.  I also note that the section that
specifically had to

do with power grids, namely "One of the concerns, obviously, is the

aging power grid; the growing problem that we have in getting electricity


from the power plant to the light switch.  It's clear that we
must upgrade

and expand the power grid.  If we put more connections in place,
we'll

go a long way towarfs avoiding future blackouts.", was cut, and then the


charge came that the comments Cheney made had nothing to do with

power grids, even those that were deleted directly addressed them.



    Joe Dees shared the following:

   

    "Another broad aim is to increase energy supplies from
diverse

    sources; from oil and gas, renewables, coal, hydro and nuclear.
This

    is the kind of balanced approach we think is essential if
we're

    going to meet the country's energy needs down the road and take
care

    of many of our other concerns, especially with respect to
the

    environment." -- Vice President Dick Cheney, U.S. Energy
Association

    Efficiency Forum Washington, D.C., June 13, 2001"

   

    A really entertaining piece of hypocrisy.How interesting to see
that

    you value this Virian sin in your so-called "prophet", Joe. Do
you

    have any more examples of this kind of banal sinful behavior
which

    you want to offer for the heroic charge it imbues you with?Feel
free

    to keep to yourself next time.

   

  [Joe2] Actually, I made no comment upon Cheney's connections
with

  Halliburton, but I do note that a veterinarian would not be in a

  position of knowledge with respect to power grids, and further
note

  that not only dod Cheney predict the problems that the northeast
power

  grid recently suffered, but also if the private companies who own
it

  had followed his advice and built better safeguards and
redundancy

  into the system, the entire travesty might well have been
averted.

 

  [Jake2] Actually you ONLY commented on Cheney as a prophet (re
subj

  line)when you shared this. The rest of it was a simple cut and
paste,

  as you rarely speak or write for yourself competently much
anymore

  these days. And the above excerpt had nothing to do with power
grids.

  Keep up with the conversation, Joe. I'm tired talking to the new

  memebot-Joe. Cheney didn't exactly invite any environmentalists to
his

  secret smoked filled room meetings right before he and his

  Enronfriends decided to fuck up the west coast power for his
personal

  financial gain. (hypocrisy) But Ken Lay was certainly very welcome.
So

  does this man speak for you now, Joe? A prophet . . . I see. You
must

  volunteer for minionhood rather easily. I suppose you can join Ken
Lay

  and his other disciples, and start a real religious crusade to put
the

  whole country (minus Texas) in the dark. There could be some
real

  money in that kind of p! iracy. I hear that a lot of former
Arthur

  Anderson employees can helpy'all with the accounting. They don't
seem

  to be good for any other kind of honest accounting these days and
can

  probably use the work, criminal though it may be. Whatever sort
of

  expertise Cheney may have in power grids, he obviously hasn't

  exercised it to actually create anything worthwhile, except to
show

  that he is capable of turning off the power when he really wants
to

  leave liberals whowill never vote for him in the dark. Maybe if

  Florida doesn't look like it is going their way in the next
election,

  they can turn off the power there too, just in casethose aging

  Floridianscan't get with new authoritarian program.

 

 

    Love,

   

    -Jake

   

   

 

 





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I wish I had Joe's gift of gab. I could write awesome editorials then.
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Ok.
will everyone please stop sending all this rubbish through the list, it's
getting rather irritating to have to sift through so much horse manure.
If i recieve one more post from irate poeple, who i'm sure have better
things to do with their time, i will take it as a personal insult and put
the postee forward to David for a temporary ban from the list.

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Joe's theatrical calls to silence me for imagined insults against him aside, the only thing Joe had offered before I criticized his new prophetic hero, was to offer Dick Cheney up as his choice for prophethood by entitleing the subject line "The Prophet".  He didn't merely say that the statement was prophetic as he now claims, he said nothing less than Dick Cheney was "The Prophet".  That has got to be one of the irrational things I've heard him offer lately on CoV.  If we can't criticize such unreasonably ridiculous and irrational suggestions without fearing silencing because Joe feels insulted by such disagreement and criticism, then CoV no longer supports rational criticism in any meaningful manner.

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Quote from: Jake Sapiens on 2003-08-17 23:23:50   
He didn't merely say that the statement was prophetic as he now claims, he said nothing less than Dick Cheney was "The Prophet".  That has got to be one of the irrational things I've heard him offer lately on CoV.
Well, I'd say your comments on his mere editorial title are beyond irrational. All of this because you don't like an article title... 
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[Quote metahuman to Jake]
Well, I'd say your comments on his mere editorial title are beyond irrational. All of this because you don't like an article title... 

Hey, did you just step off the boat yesterday, or what?  If you think Jake's comments are soley because of a subject line, then you obviously have a LOT of reading to do.

[Metahuman] I wish I had Joe's gift of gab. I could write awesome editorials then.

Gee, I sure wish I had the vast and unfettered contempt of dozens of people I've never even met before!  I could sure cause lots of auto-eyeball-gauging frustration and pained annoyance then!
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Quote from: Zloduska on 2003-08-19 04:50:27   


Quote:
[Quote metahuman to Jake]
Well, I'd say your comments on his mere editorial title are beyond irrational. All of this because you don't like an article title... 

Hey, did you just step off the boat yesterday, or what?  If you think Jake's comments are soley because of a subject line, then you obviously have a LOT of reading to do.
You should pay closer attention to Jake's complaints and stop writing lame posts that get added to the Best of Virus archive.
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> Hey, did you just step off the boat yesterday, or what?  If you think
> Jake's comments are soley because of a subject line, then you
> obviously have a LOT of reading to do.
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> [Metahuman] I wish I had Joe's gift of gab. I could write awesome
> editorials then.
>
> Gee, I sure wish I had the vast and unfettered contempt of dozens of
> people I've never even met before!  I could sure cause lots of
> auto-eyeball-gauging frustration and pained annoyance then!
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Yes, I know, Joe.

Just a recent thought... it seems people like Jake think that we oppose the rating system because our ranking is bad. However, that is not the case. Personally, I wouldn't give a damn if my ranking was -4675474364363356456 in all three categories. The ranking system is inappropriate in a forum--in a philosophy--as this. Although it seems to become more and more appropriate as the environment of the CoV community becomes more and more immature.

Heretic: "I oppose the rating system because it is... etc.!"
Xians: "Lies! You oppose the rating system because you're at the bottom!"
Heretic: "No! I oppose the rating systtem because it is... etc.!"
Xians: "More lies! You oppose the rating system because you can't move higher!"
Heretic: "Idiots!"
Xians: "Savage."
Heretic: "Slaves!"
Xians: "Silence! You will now be judged."

<Seconds later...>

Xians: "You have been found guilty of... etc."
Xians: "Heretic! By law of Disownment, you will be banished and prohibited from our sight."
Heretic: "But..."
Xians: "You were told to be silent! NOW PREPARE TO MEET OUR MAKER."

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