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A logical analysis of the existence of God
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Can Demon's correspondent, who appears to have his rudder and bowsprit entangled (examine his use of assertion rather than even attempted reasoned refutation and then refer to Lewis Carrol's "Hunting of the Snark") please identify the gods s/he is discussing, and clarify the source of her/his assertions on the 'four dimensional attributes' of her/his supposed godhood.

Certainly I don't recall any thing like that postulated here from my theological studies. The gods in the myths I have been exposed to were like those of the Judeo-Christian mythology. Indubitably bound in with time and needing e.g. "to stop the sun" in order to give them time to commit genocide. A habit which their followers have not yet relinquished some 2,500 years later.

In any case, I think that Demon's correspondent misses an important point. Postulating a multi-dimensional nature for "god-time" [a non-realizable model as space-time is not separable] does not simplify her/his problems, it makes them far worse. If a postulated god being is "outside of" or "skew to" our space-time (and within an inertial frame, space and time are irrevocably bound) then if the postulated gods attempted to interact with our Universe they would cause massive destruction, as normalizing the time vector of the hypothetical gods (as asserted by Demon's correspondent) to our Universe, would result in a skewing of the local space vector (and vice versa). Stipulating that some transform were available to perform this imaginary, unproved and probably unprovable hypothesis, it would, even in free vacuum, result in a massive alteration in the strain energy, This suggests that such an interaction would require the expenditure of huge amounts of energy (and would incidentaly violate the laws of thermodynamics). Even assuming that the postulated gods have access to unlimited energy, are permitted to violate the laws of thermodynamics and are themselves immune to the consequences of releasing such devastation, any baryonic material in the vicinity would be disassociated by such an interaction.

So the postulated model suggests that gods as described by Demon's correspondent would instantly destroy any portion of our Universe with which they attempted to interact and thus would be precluded from meaningful interaction with our Universe. Given the harm that the mere idea of gods has caused men over the centuries, I suggest that this is probably a "Good Thing".

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