From: rhinoceros (rhinoceros@freemail.gr)
Date: Thu Aug 01 2002 - 06:18:00 MDT
[kharin]
You have written in the past that the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in a number of states was a blowback resulting from the policy pursued against the Soviets; can you be certain that the same will not happen through the current actions?
[Joe Dees]
It's going to happen anyway. The very rejection of the supremacy of Islam and the Shar'ia as a model for constitutional governance is itself a causus belli in the eyes of the rabid Dar Al Islami Ummah.
[rhinoceros]
What is that which is going to happen anyway, and why? Aren't Islamists and Islamic states subject to human nature and its social aspects? Just look at Iran. They oppress and abuse their people, but they are seeking international relations with the "infidels" for economical reasons. And this is happening not in the face of just "not accepting the supremacy of Islam", but in the face of active rejection, aggresive isolation, pressure for social change, even war against other muslim states. Can you really explain Iran's international policy through the Koran. What about Saudi Arabia?
I find your belief attributing a top significance to the Koran unfounded. Did the crusades really happen because of the the Bible?
[Joe Dees]
In this case, just as with the Soviet case, the US sees itself threatened globally, and for good reason. The only law that the adversaries recognize is Shar'ia.
[rhinoceros]
Deliberate intervention based on strategic-economic interests has also some Sharia-like characteristics (pressure towards a worldview).
What is really happening is feeding pan-arabic nationalism through interventions dictated by the interests of the USA (consider Saudi Arabia vs Iraq). It seems reasonable to assume that the USA thinktanks know that very well, but those interests are considered too important.
Another interesting issue would be what the politically correct term "interests of the USA" means in practice, and what are its implications for the ordinary citizen of the USA. By not questioning such issues, one would be satisfied to use the word *we* and engage happily in planning the next strategically crucial operation on a map on his desk.
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