From: Steele, Kirk A (SteeleKA@nafm.misawa.af.mil)
Date: Sat Jan 19 2002 - 22:09:34 MST
Joe, tell Philip that this concept of his is known as "scripting", It is
very prevalent. Tell him to go through ERIC or Ingenta for references.
Kirk
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From: "Philip Jonkers" <PHILIPJONKERS@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: A Confusing Example
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From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com>
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: A Confusing Example
> Interesting question...
>
> What would you call it when the source sets up a
scenario where the target
> cannot help but to reach the desired conclusion (the
meme) by observing the
> surroundings you have created? There is no direct
communication, but there
> is still a deliberate transferrence.
>
> Brief example: A's roommate B is a slob. A has
already shown, told, written
> and pictured to no avail in an attempt to transfer
his/her "cleanliness is
> good" meme. Finally A takes all of B's most useful
and/or treasured
> belongings and hides them in the lowest strata of the
debris. B comes home,
> can't find his shit, and realizes that it's because
there is no order to the
> arrangement of his belongings, and decides of his own
accord (in his
> perspective) that "cleanliness is good, because then
I can find my
> homework/tools/bong/whatever."
>
> I'm not sure that this qualifies as meme transference
in your model, but my
> instinct is that it should. (The meme has, after all,
been transferred). If
> it does qualify, what would you call that? Assisted
Discovery?
Good point, Assisted Discovery I like that.
Nothing has been transferred indeed,
but the meme-host has discovered the meme himself
with or without stimulus. If without stimulus he
might be called a meme originator, though he might
not be the first at that of course. Consequently,
he may start spreading it by conventional means
of transmission or by the Assisted Discovery mechanism
if he is conscious of it.
Philip.
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