From: Kalkor (kalkor@kalkor.com)
Date: Fri Jan 11 2002 - 21:43:30 MST
I regret that I misinterpreted the idea of "group thinking". Also, my grasp
of some terminology is a bit weak, and I don't have hours to compose ;-}
Would "social animals" have been better? And maybe replace "need" with
"desire", "seek", or something? I admit, I know very little about this
subject, but I want to LEARN. In answer to Michele's question earlier, I
think each individual may have a "most important thing", rather than there
being a universal one. Mine is learning, I suspect. I would rather study
than eat sometimes ;-/
If you could give me some good links, especially those dealing with
rudimentary sociolog, ethology, and biosocial psychology, I WILL read them
;-} I have time and not much money however, and my library card has expired,
so books may not be the best way to go.
As I said in a previous post, I've been exposed to the CoV for a very short
period of time, and there are many things I'm discovering a need to train
myself to do/not do. Please help me if you see an area I obviously need help
in, and not just the psychology in this case but also the debate
fundamentals and the list etiquite.
And thank you for the "good start". It DOES mean a lot to me ;-}
Kalkor
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
Of Steele, Kirk A
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 3:17 PM
To: 'virus@lucifer.com'
Subject: RE: virus: Peep.....peep......... more important than love?
Ok, another OUT OF BOUNDS warning light is going off. (Darwin knows I have
set off a few of those in my time)
"OUT OF BOUNDS" warning light, simple. It means you are operating out of the
bounds of your KNOWLEDGE base and flying on belief.
Example "Possibly the need for acceptance and affirmation in herd
organisms?"
Herd organisms - animals that exhibit a high need of socialization in order
to thrive and survive. Bee's, most primates, water buffalo, gazelle, et
cetera.
Klakor, study some rudamentory sociology and ethology
Bio-social - this terms speaks to a specific branch of psychology, that is
the other field a rudementary KNOWLEDGE in would greatly assist most in
here.
And, you didn't address my question, as asked. Although, good start.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kalkor [mailto:kalkor@kalkor.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:53 AM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: Peep.....peep......... more important than love?
The first one that pops into my mind is protection and education of young.
This is a pretty important one in small- and infrequent-offspring producers
such as ourselves. This may explain the retention of behaviors such as
life-mating and child-rearing. Monogamy however? Anyone know much about
pre-christian "marital" behaviors? Not me...
Possibly the need for acceptance and affirmation in herd organisms? One that
is self-aware usually wants to know that he/she is accepted by the pack, not
shunned or exiled. One that is indifferent to kin wouldn't necessarily stay
with the crowd, and may therefore be culled by good ole nature...
Ooooh, can't think of anymore right now. Good question though!
Kalkor
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
Of Steele, Kirk A
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:10 PM
To: 'virus@lucifer.com'
Subject: virus: Peep.....peep......... more important than love?
Love is a hormone. Oxytocin, to be specific. But so what! If it feels
good............
Do it!
"as abstract as god".............................giggle
the fluffie-bunny detecter is going "peep.........peep..............peep"
Here are some group-think questions: What are the biosocial precursors of
extreme emotional attachment? What bio-evolutionary benefits are forwarded
through the selection of this behavioral tendancy?
Kirkasaurus Wrecks
-----Original Message-----
From: ghostie [mailto:ghostwmost@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:01 PM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: more important than love?
There are so many things that we as humans deem important. First we
have for to establish, wow is one thing important to a process. Food is
important for nutrition, and society is important for humans. We need
people. Whether we love them or not that's not important. But how we
interact with them is. Love is a deep concept, maybe as abstract as
god. But maybe the two are the same. The presence of love is important
whether we know it or not. What is more important than love.... life.
Love comes naturally, we don't have to justify it.
ghost
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf
Of Mermaid .
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:38 AM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re: virus: more important than love?
[Michelle]What really is the most important thing in life, in your
esteemed
opinions?
[Mermaid]Integrity.
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